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Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 am Also, if 'you' SERIOUSLY REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE that there is NO 'intelligence' WITHIN 'you', human beings, then, by all means, please feel ABSOLUTELY FREE to BELIEVE such A 'thing'.

UNLIKE 'you', 'i' do NOT SERIOSLY WANT TO BELIEVE anything.

YET 'you' SHOW, and WILL PROVE, otherwise. Like, for example, 'you' SERIOUSLY WANT TO BELIEVE that I BELIEVE 'things'.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am But the CLAIM that there is this 'INTELLIGENCE' in 'us' is a HUGE CLAIM and it WARRANTS evidence. Until then, it is JUST 'your' BELIEF.

1. As I have EXPLAINED, PREVIOUSLY, I do NOT DO 'evidence', and FOR the REASONS I have ALSO EXPLAINED. I DO PROOF, INSTEAD.

2. If some 'thing' IS A so-called HUGE CLAIM, the 'that' in and of itself, OBVIOUSLY, has NO bearing on whether 'that claim' is True or NOT.

3. That the earth revolves around the sun could have well been SEEN and CALLED a HUGE CLAIM as well. But, AGAIN, 'that' in and of itself has NO BEARING AT ALL on what IS ACTUALLY True AND Right.

4. 'Things' ONLY so-call 'warrant' 'evidence' WHEN one WANTS 'evidence'.

5. A CLAIM is NOT necessarily A BELIEF AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE "another one" has NOT YET BECOME SAVVY TO 'evidence' FOR A CLAIM. The Fact that while 'one' was EXPRESSING a so-called HUGE CLAIM about that ACTUALLY 'the earth revolves around the sun', then 'this' does NOT AT ALL MEAN that 'that CLAIM' what JUST 'that one's' BELIEF AT ALL.

Now, I SAY and CLAIM that there is ONLY one Mind and that there EXISTS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN 'you', human beings. I, ALSO, SHARE the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of 'these' WITH 'those' who ARE Truly INTERESTED IN SEEING, and KNOWING, these Truths.

Until THEN, I WAIT, PATIENTLY.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:09 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 am Also, if 'you' SERIOUSLY REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE that there is NO 'intelligence' WITHIN 'you', human beings, then, by all means, please feel ABSOLUTELY FREE to BELIEVE such A 'thing'.

UNLIKE 'you', 'i' do NOT SERIOSLY WANT TO BELIEVE anything.

YET 'you' SHOW, and WILL PROVE, otherwise. Like, for example, 'you' SERIOUSLY WANT TO BELIEVE that I BELIEVE 'things'.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am But the CLAIM that there is this 'INTELLIGENCE' in 'us' is a HUGE CLAIM and it WARRANTS evidence. Until then, it is JUST 'your' BELIEF.

1. As I have EXPLAINED, PREVIOUSLY, I do NOT DO 'evidence', and FOR the REASONS I have ALSO EXPLAINED. I DO PROOF, INSTEAD.

2. If some 'thing' IS A so-called HUGE CLAIM, the 'that' in and of itself, OBVIOUSLY, has NO bearing on whether 'that claim' is True or NOT.

3. That the earth revolves around the sun could have well been SEEN and CALLED a HUGE CLAIM as well. But, AGAIN, 'that' in and of itself has NO BEARING AT ALL on what IS ACTUALLY True AND Right.

4. 'Things' ONLY so-call 'warrant' 'evidence' WHEN one WANTS 'evidence'.

5. A CLAIM is NOT necessarily A BELIEF AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE "another one" has NOT YET BECOME SAVVY TO 'evidence' FOR A CLAIM. The Fact that while 'one' was EXPRESSING a so-called HUGE CLAIM about that ACTUALLY 'the earth revolves around the sun', then 'this' does NOT AT ALL MEAN that 'that CLAIM' what JUST 'that one's' BELIEF AT ALL.

Now, I SAY and CLAIM that there is ONLY one Mind and that there EXISTS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN 'you', human beings. I, ALSO, SHARE the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of 'these' WITH 'those' who ARE Truly INTERESTED IN SEEING, and KNOWING, these Truths.

Until THEN, I WAIT, PATIENTLY.

How TRULY PATHETIC and DESPERATE to COMPARE something with OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE such as the earth revolving around the sun to SOMETHING with NO EVIDENCE and NO IRREFUTABLE PROOF such as 'your' CLAIM.

guys there is smoke coming from my Caps Lock, is that normal?

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:23 pm guys there is smoke coming from my Caps Lock, is that normal?

It's expected.
Try to learn to write properly

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:14 pm Just a modest request of others here on Earth. If you come across my dead body lying in the dirt, please throw it in a landfill and, if it's not too much trouble) recite the following epitaph in remembrance:

Gary Childress was doing reasonably well in his mental health recovery until a forum member named, Age, came to PN. [I'm sure future generations will be able to decipher what "PN" refers to, so no need to spell it out.] Age began harassing him with unreasonable, disingenuous questions and refused to be open in discussion with Gary. So Gary became frustrated and with no reasonable outlet to direct his frustration, his mental health declined. Poor Gary was diagnosed with Schizophrenia in 1991 at the age of 25. For a brief time in his life, until he was diagnosed, he got to experience life as a sane person until Age messed with his mind and sent him into remission. Gary's last words, however, were:

"Dear God, Age knows not what he does, forgive him and go fuck yourself for creating this fucked up world".

Before you die, put him on "ignore" it will make you life quieter.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:23 pm guys there is smoke coming from my Caps Lock, is that normal?

To me it is. WE are all living beings and there is distress coming from the world right now. Climate change, war, habitat destruction. It's time for EVERYONE to wake up.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:09 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am
UNLIKE 'you', 'i' do NOT SERIOSLY WANT TO BELIEVE anything.

YET 'you' SHOW, and WILL PROVE, otherwise. Like, for example, 'you' SERIOUSLY WANT TO BELIEVE that I BELIEVE 'things'.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:23 am But the CLAIM that there is this 'INTELLIGENCE' in 'us' is a HUGE CLAIM and it WARRANTS evidence. Until then, it is JUST 'your' BELIEF.

1. As I have EXPLAINED, PREVIOUSLY, I do NOT DO 'evidence', and FOR the REASONS I have ALSO EXPLAINED. I DO PROOF, INSTEAD.

2. If some 'thing' IS A so-called HUGE CLAIM, the 'that' in and of itself, OBVIOUSLY, has NO bearing on whether 'that claim' is True or NOT.

3. That the earth revolves around the sun could have well been SEEN and CALLED a HUGE CLAIM as well. But, AGAIN, 'that' in and of itself has NO BEARING AT ALL on what IS ACTUALLY True AND Right.

4. 'Things' ONLY so-call 'warrant' 'evidence' WHEN one WANTS 'evidence'.

5. A CLAIM is NOT necessarily A BELIEF AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE "another one" has NOT YET BECOME SAVVY TO 'evidence' FOR A CLAIM. The Fact that while 'one' was EXPRESSING a so-called HUGE CLAIM about that ACTUALLY 'the earth revolves around the sun', then 'this' does NOT AT ALL MEAN that 'that CLAIM' what JUST 'that one's' BELIEF AT ALL.

Now, I SAY and CLAIM that there is ONLY one Mind and that there EXISTS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN 'you', human beings. I, ALSO, SHARE the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of 'these' WITH 'those' who ARE Truly INTERESTED IN SEEING, and KNOWING, these Truths.

Until THEN, I WAIT, PATIENTLY.

How TRULY PATHETIC and DESPERATE to COMPARE something with OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE such as the earth revolving around the sun to SOMETHING with NO EVIDENCE and NO IRREFUTABLE PROOF such as 'your' CLAIM.

ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

The EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun is THERE for ALL TO SEE. BUT 'SEEING' something FOR 'themselves' is NOT what EVIDENCE is AT ALL. INSTEAD it is what MILLIONS of SELF-PROCLAIMED MESSENGERS of TRUTH before 'you' have ALREADY tried to PUSH DOWN our throats. WHEN WILL 'you' UNDERSTAND that it is 'you' who has been MISSING THE POINT ENTIRELY from the START?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:30 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:23 pm guys there is smoke coming from my Caps Lock, is that normal?

To me it is. WE are all living beings and there is distress coming from the world right now. Climate change, war, habitat destruction. It's time for EVERYONE to wake up.

WHAT IS 'it', EXACTLY, "gary childress", that 'you' WANT 'them' to WAKE UP TO?

If 'they' WAKE UP to that 'it' IS God who CREATED ALL OF 'this' MESS, then, OBVIOUSLY, 'they' can NOT DO ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' ABOUT 'this'.

AND,

'you', and "other adults" here, OBVIOUSLY are FIGHTING BACK AGAINST my CLAIM that it WAS, and IS, 'you', adult human beings, WHO ARE the ones CREATING ALL OF 'this' MESS described above here.

By the way, I AGREE that it IS 'time' FOR EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, to WAKE UP and ADMIT the Wrong that 'you' ARE ALL DOING, individually AND collectively, AS WELL AS WAKING UP TO ACTUALLY STARTING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, FOR ONCE, and FOR, literally, ALL.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:09 pm

YET 'you' SHOW, and WILL PROVE, otherwise. Like, for example, 'you' SERIOUSLY WANT TO BELIEVE that I BELIEVE 'things'.



1. As I have EXPLAINED, PREVIOUSLY, I do NOT DO 'evidence', and FOR the REASONS I have ALSO EXPLAINED. I DO PROOF, INSTEAD.

2. If some 'thing' IS A so-called HUGE CLAIM, the 'that' in and of itself, OBVIOUSLY, has NO bearing on whether 'that claim' is True or NOT.

3. That the earth revolves around the sun could have well been SEEN and CALLED a HUGE CLAIM as well. But, AGAIN, 'that' in and of itself has NO BEARING AT ALL on what IS ACTUALLY True AND Right.

4. 'Things' ONLY so-call 'warrant' 'evidence' WHEN one WANTS 'evidence'.

5. A CLAIM is NOT necessarily A BELIEF AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE "another one" has NOT YET BECOME SAVVY TO 'evidence' FOR A CLAIM. The Fact that while 'one' was EXPRESSING a so-called HUGE CLAIM about that ACTUALLY 'the earth revolves around the sun', then 'this' does NOT AT ALL MEAN that 'that CLAIM' what JUST 'that one's' BELIEF AT ALL.

Now, I SAY and CLAIM that there is ONLY one Mind and that there EXISTS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN 'you', human beings. I, ALSO, SHARE the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of 'these' WITH 'those' who ARE Truly INTERESTED IN SEEING, and KNOWING, these Truths.

Until THEN, I WAIT, PATIENTLY.

How TRULY PATHETIC and DESPERATE to COMPARE something with OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE such as the earth revolving around the sun to SOMETHING with NO EVIDENCE and NO IRREFUTABLE PROOF such as 'your' CLAIM.

ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

It doesn't appear that your message is getting through, Age. Perhaps you have repeatedly been using the wrong means?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:57 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:21 pm
How TRULY PATHETIC and DESPERATE to COMPARE something with OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE such as the earth revolving around the sun to SOMETHING with NO EVIDENCE and NO IRREFUTABLE PROOF such as 'your' CLAIM.

ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

It doesn't appear that your message is getting through, Age. Perhaps you have repeatedly been using the wrong means?

No, the message is getting through loud and clear. It's just that someone has to be completely insane to believe that that kind of message is correct.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:58 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:57 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm

ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

It doesn't appear that your message is getting through, Age. Perhaps you have repeatedly been using the wrong means?

No, the message is getting through loud and clear. It's just that someone has to be completely insane to believe that that kind of message is correct.

I think Age wants the world to change for the better, the same as many of the rest of us do. Unfortunately, the tone and structure of his sentences seem to presume his own innocence. In a world full of evil, there is no innocence for one, until there is innocence for ALL. And that cannot be achieved through war and destruction.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:02 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:58 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:57 pm

It doesn't appear that your message is getting through, Age. Perhaps you have repeatedly been using the wrong means?

No, the message is getting through loud and clear. It's just that someone has to be completely insane to believe that that kind of message is correct.

I think Age wants the world to change for the better, the same as many of the rest of us do. Unfortunately, the tone and structure of his sentences seem to presume his own innocence. In a world full of evil, there is no innocence for one, until there is innocence for ALL. And that cannot be achieved through war and destruction.

So what, every sane person wants the world to change for the better. But pretending that individual humans with individual minds don't exist, instead it's God speaking through us all in addition to our automatic random voices, and all we have to do is realize this and synchronize our Godly thoughts and voices, is just patent BS from someone who actually does nothing but avoid facing the real world.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:55 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY been ABLE TO MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND the WHOLE POINT.

The 'people' BACK IN THOSE DAYS, JUST LIKE THE 'people' BACK IN THE DAYS when this is being written, UNTIL 'they' HAVE 'SEEN' the 'evidence' and/or 'proof' FOR "themselves", WILL SAY and CLAIM that what "the other" IS SAYING and CLAIMING IS JUST 'their BELIEF'. Which IS EXACTLY, what 'you' ARE PROVING True here "atla". As 'I' have been SAYING and CLAIMING 'you' WOULD DO, and which 'I' AM USING FOR NOT just 'evidence' BUT AS ACTUAL PROOF for what 'it' IS that I AM SHOWING and PROVING TO "others" here.

What 'you' STILL HAVE YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND "atla" IS, the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND IRREFUTABLE PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING here, that is; that there IS ONLY One Mind and that there IS INTELLIGENCE WITHIN EVERY one of 'you', human beings, ALREADY EXISTS. 'you' have just NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF 'It'. Just like 'the people' who HAD NOT YET BEEN MADE AWARE OF the EVIDENCE and IRREFUTABLE PROOF that 'the earth revolves around the sun', 'they' ALSO "atla", just like 'you', BELIEVED, ABSOLUTELY, that there IS NO such EVIDENCE NOR PROOF FOR SAID CLAIMS.

Although 'you' CLEARLY can NOT COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I AM SAYING and GETTING AT here "atla", "others" CLEARLY CAN.

The EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun is THERE for ALL TO SEE.

ONCE MORE, and ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have MANAGED TO STILL COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISS the POINT.

The EVIDENCE, and the ACTUAL PROOF, that the earth revolves around the sun HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE. JUST LIKE the ACTUAL PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE.

However, 'you', living IN the days when this is being written, it IS VERY EASY and SIMPLE for 'you' TO CLAIM that the EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun IS 'THERE for ALL TO SEE', BUT 'you' would NOT have even been REMOTELY CLOSE to SAYING 'this' IF 'you' WERE living IN 'the days', IN THE PAST.

'you', "atla", IF 'you' lived IN 'those days', would have been the PRIME CANDIDATE for BEING the VERY one ATTEMPTING TO ANTAGONIZE, the MOST, 'the one' who WAS SAYING and CLAIMING that, ACTUALLY, it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, WHILE CLAIMING that 'that' IS a HUGE CLAIM of which there is NO evidence NOR PROOF FOR AT ALL. ALL WHILE ENCOURAGING "others" to JUMP ON 'your' BAND WAGON, and some might say, and HELP IN the OSTRACIZING and RIDICULING OF 'the one' MAKING the such an APPARENT OUTLANDISH and OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:55 pm BUT 'SEEING' something FOR 'themselves' is NOT what EVIDENCE is AT ALL. INSTEAD it is what MILLIONS of SELF-PROCLAIMED MESSENGERS of TRUTH before 'you' have ALREADY tried to PUSH DOWN our throats.

'you' ARE SO LOST and CONFUSED here "atla" 'you' are, ONCE AGAIN, GOING SO FAR OFF TRACK.

IF 'you' living BACK IN the so-called 'olden days', WHEN EVERY one BESIDES one BELIEVED that the sun revolves around the earth, THEN, ALL of "those others" HAD NOT YET SEEN, FOR "themselves", what 'the one' ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD, which was; the EVIDENCE and the PROOF that ACTUALLY it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, and NOT the OTHER WAY AROUND as EVERY one "ELSE" WAS 'seeing' and 'believing'.

One day, HOPEFULLY, 'you' ALSO WILL GET TO SEE and UNDERSTAND 'this' here "atla".

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:06 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:02 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:58 pm
No, the message is getting through loud and clear. It's just that someone has to be completely insane to believe that that kind of message is correct.

I think Age wants the world to change for the better, the same as many of the rest of us do. Unfortunately, the tone and structure of his sentences seem to presume his own innocence. In a world full of evil, there is no innocence for one, until there is innocence for ALL. And that cannot be achieved through war and destruction.

So what, every sane person wants the world to change for the better. But pretending that individual humans with individual minds don't exist, instead it's God speaking through us all in addition to our automatic random voices, and all we have to do is realize this and synchronize our Godly thoughts and voices, is just patent BS from someone who actually does nothing but avoid facing the real world.

I think it has become evident to most, that Age is not "sane", any more than I am. Who can be sane in a world of destruction? However, I agree that his posts come off like fingernails across a chalkboard. If he wants to make the world a better place, then he should find a forum full of military contractors and such and post there. He's preaching to the choir here.