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henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:56 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:52 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm What have the "Left" every done for us???

Not one damn thing.

All advancements in this world, every last one of them, came from free men. Competing and cooperating free men.

The Left & Right: two sides of the same sewer (the rats are all the same).

And -- just as a caution -- it's not advisable to let the enemy define sumthin' (and you) as authoritarian and then push you into the corner to defend yourself against the charge. Border control -- in itself -- is no more authoritarian than locking the doors of your home before you go to work.

It's prudence, nuthin' more or less.

*Here we have ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of just how completely and utterly BLIND human beings were to their OWN DISTORTED BELIEFS, in the days when this was being written.

*Here we have ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of someone rollin' 'round in her own feces, callin' it wisdom.

Careful you don't get some in your mouth.

LOL

You BELIEVE that you have the, so called, "right" to lock "others" out of what you say and claim is "yours", yet you, CONTRADICTORY, take and steal the exact same things from "others".

AND, as I was saying and POINTING OUT, 'you', "henry quirk", are completely and utterly BLIND to this Fact.

Also, I have NEVER said 'it' was wisdom.

You, laughably, have NEVER even attempted to gain CLARITY in regards to what I have been saying and POINTING OUT. Instead you just call 'it' feces, while OBVIOUSLY NOT even having any clue at all in regards to what I have been talking about. Which makes this even more HILARIOUS to observe, and witness.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:53 pm I have a feeling you have some sort of monetary interest in a system that depends on the ruling classes 'doing the right thing' (as if that has ever happened).

See? This kinda idiocy is what rankles me. I'm a natural rights libertarian. I don't favor rulers or ruling classes. You know this, or should.

What you favor is if ANY one just touches absolutely ANY thing, which you laughably call "own", then you have a "right" to 'shoot them dead', correct?

Now, if this is correct, then this what is sometimes known as a 'ruler' or a 'ruling class'. Which, OBVIOUSLY, you favor to the highest degree.

But, if it is not correct that you believe you have a right to shoot those who touch what you own, then what is, actually, correct here?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:53 pm Just be honest for once.

Never been nuthin' but.


What are your true motives?

To remain free: same as always. To lend a hand to those who want the same: same as always.

But you are NOT free "henry quirk".

You are A SLAVE to the society in which you find "yourself" in. When are you going to comprehend, and SEE, this Fact?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:53 pm
A 'proud American' who is in love with European-style feudalism

Nope. A free man in a nation of free people.

LOL
LOL
LOL

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:53 pm America is that nation (we just gotta get rid of the pesky united states of bullshit [along with all the cockeyed losers types]).

So, WHY the restrictive borders within that "one" nation?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:53 pm

Laugh it up, lettuce. Not gonna be my sweet ass served up in a salad.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:07 pm Where's the incoherency?

Cite an example.

"EVERY man is free", but, "I have a right to stop this freedom".

This is VERY INCOHERENT, to me, although it may not be at all to you.

That is one example, cited.

I'm not the one who needs a big 'sky daddy' watching over me.

Of course not: you have your masters to do that

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:02 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:56 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:52 pm

*Here we have ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of just how completely and utterly BLIND human beings were to their OWN DISTORTED BELIEFS, in the days when this was being written.

*Here we have ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of someone rollin' 'round in her own feces, callin' it wisdom.

Careful you don't get some in your mouth.

LOL

You BELIEVE that you have the, so called, "right" to lock "others" out of what you say and claim is "yours", yet you, CONTRADICTORY, take and steal the exact same things from "others".

AND, as I was saying and POINTING OUT, 'you', "henry quirk", are completely and utterly BLIND to this Fact.

Also, I have NEVER said 'it' was wisdom.

You, laughably, have NEVER even attempted to gain CLARITY in regards to what I have been saying and POINTING OUT. Instead you just call 'it' feces, while OBVIOUSLY NOT even having any clue at all in regards to what I have been talking about. Which makes this even more HILARIOUS to observe, and witness.

LOL

Yeah, I used to do that when I read your stuff.

What you favor is if ANY one just touches absolutely ANY thing, which you laughably call "own", then you have a "right" to 'shoot them dead', correct?

Nope. Never said that. Never even hinted at that. You're wrong. You do not pass go. You do not collect $200.


But, if it is not correct that you believe you have a right to shoot those who touch what you own, then what is, actually, correct here?

I'll give you a shot to get it.

This...

A man belongs to himself.

A man's life, liberty, and property are his.

A man's life, liberty, or property are only forfeit, in part or whole, when he knowingly, willingly, without just cause, deprives another, in part or whole, of life, liberty, or property.

...is what I've posted multiple times, in-forum. It's sums up my thinkin' about an essential fact about man; it offers a starting point for morality (what is and isn't permissible between and among men); it undergirds free enterprise (and it makes a fine dessert topping).

Read it. Think about it. Tell me, then, how sorry you are for misjudgin' me.


So, WHY the restrictive borders within that "one" nation?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:59 am There ain't nuthin' wrong with the open border where the citizens are a self-reliant people, where the proxy of government is small and reigned in, where the only safety net is private charity.

Where citizens have been taught, or forced, to rely, where gov overbears, where all are guaranteed subsistence, the open border is madness.

There is America, free people, then there's The United States, the State: the two are not synonymous.

In the same way morality and legalism ought to align but don't, America and The United States ought to, but don't align. Absent The State, America would have an open border. Without The State, throngs of refugees wouldn't wanna come here, and slaver states would avoid us.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:58 am I'm not the one who needs a big 'sky daddy' watching over me.

Of course not: you have your masters to do that

Keep praying, you subervient little cretin

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:10 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:58 am I'm not the one who needs a big 'sky daddy' watching over me.

Of course not: you have your masters to do that

Keep praying, you subervient little cretin

I don't pray, broccoli.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:47 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:10 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:58 am I'm not the one who needs a big 'sky daddy' watching over me.

Of course not: you have your masters to do that

Keep praying, you subervient little cretin

I don't pray, broccoli.

You might as well, asparagus...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:57 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:47 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:10 am

Keep praying, you subervient little cretin

I don't pray, broccoli.

You might as well, asparagus...

Jeez, but you're bad at this.

I call you carrot or lettuce or turnip cuz you're veg.

You call me henry jerk or neanderthal or caveman cuz, well, it's obvious why.

You, callin' me, a vegetable falls flat. It ain't funny. It's got no poetry.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:08 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:57 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:47 am

I don't pray, broccoli.

You might as well, asparagus...

Jeez, but you're bad at this.

I call you carrot or lettuce or turnip cuz you're veg.

You call me henry jerk or neanderthal or caveman cuz, well, it's obvious why.

You, callin' me, a vegetable falls flat. It ain't funny. It's got no poetry.

Oh well. I like asparagus anyway (and broccoli for that matter).

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:02 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:56 pm

*Here we have ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of someone rollin' 'round in her own feces, callin' it wisdom.

Careful you don't get some in your mouth.

LOL

You BELIEVE that you have the, so called, "right" to lock "others" out of what you say and claim is "yours", yet you, CONTRADICTORY, take and steal the exact same things from "others".

AND, as I was saying and POINTING OUT, 'you', "henry quirk", are completely and utterly BLIND to this Fact.

Also, I have NEVER said 'it' was wisdom.

You, laughably, have NEVER even attempted to gain CLARITY in regards to what I have been saying and POINTING OUT. Instead you just call 'it' feces, while OBVIOUSLY NOT even having any clue at all in regards to what I have been talking about. Which makes this even more HILARIOUS to observe, and witness.

LOL

Yeah, I used to do that when I read your stuff.

You used to do 'what', EXACTLY?

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:35 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:02 am

LOL

You BELIEVE that you have the, so called, "right" to lock "others" out of what you say and claim is "yours", yet you, CONTRADICTORY, take and steal the exact same things from "others".

AND, as I was saying and POINTING OUT, 'you', "henry quirk", are completely and utterly BLIND to this Fact.

Also, I have NEVER said 'it' was wisdom.

You, laughably, have NEVER even attempted to gain CLARITY in regards to what I have been saying and POINTING OUT. Instead you just call 'it' feces, while OBVIOUSLY NOT even having any clue at all in regards to what I have been talking about. Which makes this even more HILARIOUS to observe, and witness.

LOL

Yeah, I used to do that when I read your stuff.

*You used to do 'what', EXACTLY?

*LOL, laugh at loud.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am What you favor is if ANY one just touches absolutely ANY thing, which you laughably call "own", then you have a "right" to 'shoot them dead', correct?

Nope. Never said that. Never even hinted at that. You're wrong. You do not pass go. You do not collect $200.

So, what would you believe you have the 'right' to do, and what would you do, if someone comes into your home and touches what you call "your own"?

Your Honest here will be much appreciated.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am But, if it is not correct that you believe you have a right to shoot those who touch what you own, then what is, actually, correct here?

I'll give you a shot to get it.

This...

A man belongs to himself.

A man's life, liberty, and property are his.

A man's life, liberty, or property are only forfeit, in part or whole, when he knowingly, willingly, without just cause, deprives another, in part or whole, of life, liberty, or property.

...is what I've posted multiple times, in-forum. It's sums up my thinkin' about an essential fact about man; it offers a starting point for morality (what is and isn't permissible between and among men); it undergirds free enterprise (and it makes a fine dessert topping).

So, what is permissible to do to those who do NOT follow YOUR view of 'morality'?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am Read it. Think about it. Tell me, then, how sorry you are for misjudgin' me.

LOL

You can keep 'trying to' RUN AWAY, but you will ALWAYS FAIL.

Tell us what is permissible to do to those who do NOT follow YOUR RULES/MORALITY here.

If you do that Honestly, then we will SEE if you have been 'judged' correctly or not.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am So, WHY the restrictive borders within that "one" nation?


There ain't nuthin' wrong with the open border where the citizens are a self-reliant people, where the proxy of government is small and reigned in, where the only safety net is private charity.

Where citizens have been taught, or forced, to rely, where gov overbears, where all are guaranteed subsistence, the open border is madness.

There is America, free people, then there's The United States, the State: the two are not synonymous.[/quote]

I KNOW. That is WHY I asked you the question that I did. Which, by the way, you have attempted to IGNORE, ONCE AGAIN.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am In the same way morality and legalism ought to align but don't,

This is VERY True. What you call 'morality' and what you consider 'right or legal' are 'world's apart', as some say. They do NOT align AT ALL. Which is WHY I have alluded to your CONTRADICTIONS previously.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:42 am America and The United States ought to, but don't align. Absent The State, America would have an open border. Without The State, throngs of refugees wouldn't wanna come here, and slaver states would avoid us.

But the so-called "united states of america" is one of the biggest slave places on earth. Of which you are one of THE SLAVES. Although you do not even recognize nor KNOW this YET.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:39 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:35 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:00 am

LOL

Yeah, I used to do that when I read your stuff.

*You used to do 'what', EXACTLY?

*LOL, laugh at loud.

Okay.

But how come you can not counter what I am saying and POINTING OUT?