Henry Quirk must be shut down

[Age]

Age

But who would not know how to consciously work?

And what is actually lost through ignorance, which you are talking about here?

I'm not being critical since apprently you have not been exposed to the concept of conscious work. It is more commonly known in Buddhism.

The idea is that we have three primary means of experiencing and interpreting the external world. We do so through our senses, our emotions, and our associative thoughts. They would be consciously connected as inner unity in a conscious human being. The fallen human condition has made it so that they are connected by imagination. Consequently we are not conscious to the experience of life - we create it in our imagination.

I agree that that this is what you adult human beings do.

Conscious work is a means for reconnecting thought, emotion, and senstion so as to function as a conscious whole as we experience daily events.

I do not see any work is needed in order to do what just comes very naturally, to me, anyway.

But as we are, sometimes we are either lost in thought, expressing negative emotions or closed to anything but the strongest sensations. Have you ever questioned the difference between feeling cold and sensing cold? Even though they are different we use the same word for both.

I have never used the same word for both.

What is the difference, to you, between 'feeling cold' and 'sensing cold'?

Have you ever questioned that there is no actual cold, nor hot?

A person can consciously work when learning to play the piano. Doing so requires thought, emotion, and sensation to work together. Our mind reads the music.

A person can also consciously work when learning HOW to live in Peace and Harmony with each "other" together.

There is no such thing as "our mind".

Our emotions try to express the emotions of the composer and our posture and hands support the ability for our emotions to be expressed through sensation.

If you say so.

Learning piano has a goal which encourages conscious work.

Can it be said that learning any thing has a goal, which encourages conscious work, also?

But we lack a goal which inspires conscious work in life so we are free to just react according to our whims.

Why do you lack a goal.

I have a goal.

We lack the inner unity to realistically experience life with the whole of ourselves so depend on imagination.

I accept that you lack the inner unity, at the moment, to realistically experience Life. I have said this previously also, but not in the same words.

IMO the only people capable of voluntary conscious work during daily events for any extended period are those with the goal of experiencing truth at the expense of self satisfying imagination.

But once you know how to experience Truth, then Truth just appears naturally always anyway. No "work" needed at all.

Also, one does not need a goal of experiencing Truth to just experience, and see, Truth.

Obviously such people are rare.

If you say so.

How many can be able to sacrifice the pearls of self satisfying imagination for the pearl of great price which reveals objective human meaning and purpose.

Absolutely every one is ABLE to do this. In fact absolutely every one is doing this when they were born into Existence. This ability, however, just gets diminished along the path. Human beings are taught to not experience Life, Itself, but to want and desire things, which leads them to self-satisfying imagination.

The real meaning of Life and of human purpose is discovered and known, when, as you say, you stop that self-satisfying imagination, et cetera.

Yet becoming cpnsciously human as opposed to a creature of reaction requires a quality of consciousness only few want so all the hypocrisy you see in the world must continue as is.

If you BELIEVE this must continue, then you WILL continue to 'create this in your imagination'.

Your imagination and BELIEFS is "creating your world", which if you have not yet noticed, because you are lost in thought, is a very negative view. That is if we go off your six last quotes.

The actual Truth, however, can be much stranger, and much more positive, than you could even imagine it is.

[Arising_uk]

I am an entertaining keyboard player/vocalist. I make people in nursing homes and senior centers feel better through the use of music and humor. One woman in a home told me that I make them feel alive again. There are worse ways to make a buck.

Can't imagine why you'd think it was a bad way but only asked because I find that those who make claims about toil being good for the soul generally don't do any of the hard stuff. As Age pointed-out what is generally a spiritually uplifting experience when working is when it is for a common cause, although "Arbeit macht frei" and the 'Long Road' should always be kept in mind. I do accept that certain types of individual toil can be rewarding and ironically enough it's what Marx thought would be the end result of Socialism, i.e. each worker being the owner of their means of production and their productivity.

[gaffo]

I am an entertaining keyboard player/vocalist. I make people in nursing homes and senior centers feel better through the use of music and humor. One woman in a home told me that I make them feel alive again. There are worse ways to make a buck.

That's very cool, and bet rewarding work (has meaning). May I make a suggestion?

Old folks like "old stuff", i think such a place (old folks home) - would like to have both "old music" (Vera Lynn (still alive 103? now)/Glen Miller/etc, and replay of the great OTR (old time radioplays - which i disscoved 20 yrs ago via the binaries group on Usenet (now all on Internet Achive).

X-minus one, dimension x, the whistler/etc............audiodramas are now a lost and forgotten artform,

sadly.

It is rewarding. Someone like me is hired to do an hour show usually between 2 and 3 in the afternoon so I am limited as far as radio dramas. However I like to play the oldies of their generation along with the fifties with energy rather than put them to sleep, Also many of the assistant workers are from Jamaica and love to dance. Of course the residents like to watch so I do some dance music. I've learned that the important thing is not to be boring. "Bill Baiiey won't You Please Come Home" with a little kick will never die.

thanks for reply, did not mean to say you should "play radiodramas" for them (you do your thing, which is yours - for them) - only suggested you let the "staff" know that there are many great Radiodramas of old, and their clients/patients may like - and just concider to have a radio hour in a "living room" for them to gather.

my post was more akin "hey do you know there were there great radio dramas years ago", which the staff of the places you go to may not know about.

thats all.

thanks for reply, though - i only wish my work was so noble ;-/.

[gaffo]

I am an entertaining keyboard player/vocalist. I make people in nursing homes and senior centers feel better through the use of music and humor. One woman in a home told me that I make them feel alive again. There are worse ways to make a buck.

Can't imagine why you'd think it was a bad way but only asked because I find that those who make claims about toil being good for the soul generally don't do any of the hard stuff. As Age pointed-out what is generally a spiritually uplifting experience when working is when it is for a common cause, although "Arbeit macht frei" and the 'Long Road' should always be kept in mind. I do accept that certain types of individual toil can be rewarding and ironically enough it's what Marx thought would be the end result of Socialism, i.e. each worker being the owner of their means of production and their productivity.

good post Sir, BTW. i don't know anything about Marx (i covered in college a little - thought he was a dick and so ignored most of what i was told about him back in then). nor do i care what his views are today, I suspect you know more about him than me.

as for "Work" - i agree when done for the "greater good" it better than when just done for the self (not self gain).

speaking for myself, i'm lazy and fine working enough for "self gain" to feed myself and pay my bill and morgage (not into making money and breaking my spirit/health for more and more money than that)

I mean THAT (sitting in a pool of money) would be nice, but i'm too lazy to work that hard.

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but only wish to say simple work (labor) - digging ditches/etc, i do and welcome (I've done much of on my property to make it look nice and grow food (urban garden). There is no money in it, but there is both satisfaction in a sense of being productive, and my back - though hurts like Hell the day after (its becomes stronger and thanks me weeks later physically).

so there is that in "simple labor".

now digging ditches and planting seeds for NAZIS, no i do not think i would like to the work i do - for them/70 yrs ago.

fk those assholes.

[Nick_A]

I am an entertaining keyboard player/vocalist. I make people in nursing homes and senior centers feel better through the use of music and humor. One woman in a home told me that I make them feel alive again. There are worse ways to make a buck.

Can't imagine why you'd think it was a bad way but only asked because I find that those who make claims about toil being good for the soul generally don't do any of the hard stuff. As Age pointed-out what is generally a spiritually uplifting experience when working is when it is for a common cause, although "Arbeit macht frei" and the 'Long Road' should always be kept in mind. I do accept that certain types of individual toil can be rewarding and ironically enough it's what Marx thought would be the end result of Socialism, i.e. each worker being the owner of their means of production and their productivity.

good post Sir, BTW. i don't know anything about Marx (i covered in college a little - thought he was a dick and so ignored most of what i was told about him back in then). nor do i care what his views are today, I suspect you know more about him than me.

as for "Work" - i agree when done for the "greater good" it better than when just done for the self (not self gain).

speaking for myself, i'm lazy and fine working enough for "self gain" to feed myself and pay my bill and morgage (not into making money and breaking my spirit/health for more and more money than that)

I mean THAT (sitting in a pool of money) would be nice, but i'm too lazy to work that hard.

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but only wish to say simple work (labor) - digging ditches/etc, i do and welcome (I've done much of on my property to make it look nice and grow food (urban garden). There is no money in it, but there is both satisfaction in a sense of being productive, and my back - though hurts like Hell the day after (its becomes stronger and thanks me weeks later physically).

so there is that in "simple labor".

now digging ditches and planting seeds for NAZIS, no i do not think i would like to the work i do - for them/70 yrs ago.

fk those assholes.

There are worse ways to make a buck.

This was just sarcasm. Actually I have a lot of respect for those who can bring some joy into the lives which don't have much time left. I've met some creative folks who were famous in their day and have listened to some wonderful stories

[gaffo]

yes Shut Henry down!!!!!!!!!!

no,


i'm just bored and following the herd.

herd is "shut Henry down"?

YES shut him down!!!!!!

lol................

;-/.

why shut anyone down if you have valid arguments?

maybe i just being too ceribral(sp).

so, yes shut him down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Walker]

Are you under the influence?

[BardoXV]

Are you under the influence?

Yes, of common sense.

[Nick_A]

I have learned that after the attack on President Trump is given up Nancy Pelosi will direct her energies to impeach Henry Quirk. Even though Henry isn't a politician he presents such a danger to the goals of modern progressives including AOC that he must be impeached as a lesson to anyone following his example.

Of course the House will support impeachment but the Senate may vote to protect Henry. The day Henry appears for his Senate trial, TV will post its highest rating ever. I know I'll be watching.

[henry quirk]

I have learned that after the attack on President Trump is given up Nancy Pelosi will direct her energies to impeach Henry Quirk. Even though Henry isn't a politician he presents such a danger to the goals of modern progressives including AOC that he must be impeached as a lesson to anyone following his example.

Of course the House will support impeachment but the Senate may vote to protect Henry. The day Henry appears for his Senate trial, TV will post its highest rating ever. I know I'll be watching.

Bring it on, crone. I got no office to hold or protect, and I do war good.

[Nick_A]

I have learned that after the attack on President Trump is given up Nancy Pelosi will direct her energies to impeach Henry Quirk. Even though Henry isn't a politician he presents such a danger to the goals of modern progressives including AOC that he must be impeached as a lesson to anyone following his example.

Of course the House will support impeachment but the Senate may vote to protect Henry. The day Henry appears for his Senate trial, TV will post its highest rating ever. I know I'll be watching.

Bring it on, crone. I got no office to hold or protect, and I do war good.

Do you really believe that after Nancy you can take on AOC and the Squad who are dedicted to put you in your place. They know what they have done to the rest of the clownmen so will relish their opportunity for destruction. Be careful. These little darlings can get rough.

Proverbs 21:9
It is better to live in a corner of a roof Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.

[henry quirk]

I have learned that after the attack on President Trump is given up Nancy Pelosi will direct her energies to impeach Henry Quirk. Even though Henry isn't a politician he presents such a danger to the goals of modern progressives including AOC that he must be impeached as a lesson to anyone following his example.

Of course the House will support impeachment but the Senate may vote to protect Henry. The day Henry appears for his Senate trial, TV will post its highest rating ever. I know I'll be watching.

Bring it on, crone. I got no office to hold or protect, and I do war good.

Do you really believe that after Nancy you can take on AOC and the Squad who are dedicted to put you in your place. They know what they have done to the rest of the clownmen so will relish their opportunity for destruction. Be careful. These little darlings can get rough.

Proverbs 21:9
It is better to live in a corner of a roof Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.

Nancy will eat shot; Alexandria will pleasure me; the rest of the squad will do my laundry.

Estrogen don't scare me.

[Nick_A]

Bring it on, crone. I got no office to hold or protect, and I do war good.

Do you really believe that after Nancy you can take on AOC and the Squad who are dedicted to put you in your place. They know what they have done to the rest of the clownmen so will relish their opportunity for destruction. Be careful. These little darlings can get rough.

Proverbs 21:9
It is better to live in a corner of a roof Than in a house shared with a contentious woman.

Nancy will eat shot; Alexandria will pleasure me; the rest of the squad will do my laundry.

Estrogen don't scare me.

Can't beat that. You may just be the one who will invigorate the clownmen.

[henry quirk]

Do you really believe that after Nancy you can take on AOC and the Squad who are dedicted to put you in your place. They know what they have done to the rest of the clownmen so will relish their opportunity for destruction. Be careful. These little darlings can get rough.

Nancy will eat shot; Alexandria will pleasure me; the rest of the squad will do my laundry.

Estrogen don't scare me.

Can't beat that. You may just be the one who will invigorate the clownmen.

They gonna haffta man up: I don't give lessons.

[Walker]

Are you under the influence?

Yes, of common sense.

Common sense is the mundane sense, or mundane view of the world, which leads to samsara.

The other category of view, or influence, is the supramundane, i.e., transcending the mundane.