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Very clever of you to avoid answering questions. No one can say that you don’t have an answer, only that you don’t give one. Better that way, isn’t it? (You don’t have to answer that.)

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:46 pm Very clever of you to avoid answering questions. No one can say that you don’t have an answer, only that you don’t give one. Better that way, isn’t it? (You don’t have to answer that.)

Why did you ask a loaded question? (you don't have to answer this either)

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:29 pm
Have you actually been reading this thread? Are you a bot?

No, I'm not a bot.

I'm just a really deep thinker.
I want to address the problem of suffering, and that is why I have created this thread topic.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:48 pm I want to address the problem of suffering, and that is why I have created this thread topic.

1. Is there really a problem of 'suffering' as you claim?
2. What solution are you selling to the problem that you have invented?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:30 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:26 pm You can tell yourself you don't exist, but you can never experience that knowledge.

Unless I adopt a different language.

This is non-experience.
This is non-knowledge.
This is non-existence.
This is unbeing unborn.

I am still waiting for you to get to your point.

Why does it matter what I tell myself?
Why does it matter what I tell you?

None of the above matters to me right now, although your curiosity to be drawn to this topic is appreciated. What really matters to me right now is why I have created this topic thread.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:52 pm What really matters to me right now is why I have created this topic thread.

That's a good start. Tell us what your end-goal was when you created this thread.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:49 pm 1. Is there really a problem of 'suffering' as you claim?

Yes, otherwise I would not be bothering to spend all my time working out a solution which I intend to inforn the reader of this forum.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:49 pmWhat solution are you selling to the problem that you have invented?

No one invents suffering. Just as no one invents breathing.

I'm not selling a solution. I am giving it away for free.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:54 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:52 pm What really matters to me right now is why I have created this topic thread.

That's a good start. Tell us what your end-goal was when you created this thread.

To address the problem of suffering.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:58 pm Yes, otherwise I would not be bothering to spend all my time working out a solution which I intend to inforn the reader of this forum.

Well, I dunno. You seem to have very poor judgment when it comes to the seriousness of problems. You spend a lot of your time worrying about paradoxes/contradictions. Me? I just ignore them and the problem goes away.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:58 pm No one invents suffering. Just as no one invents breathing.

I'm not selling a solution. I am giving it away for free.

You most definitely are! You are yet to convince me that "suffering" is even a serious problem.

Does suffering go away if you just ignore it?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:59 pm To address the problem of suffering.

OK. Before you jump into solutions, can you at least state your understanding of the problem.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:36 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:33 pm How can you show that you can do squat without being able to do squat?

False equivalence.

What was claimed that I can't do a squat. So I did one in doing so demonstrating that the claim as wrong.

I can talk to myself out loud. I can talk to myself in my head. Hence demonstrating that the claim "There is no way you can tell yourself you are born." as being false. There are at least two ways in which I can tell myself that I am born.

Whichever way you look at it, I can say anything I want about myself.

But you claimed you don’t need to be able to do something in order to be able to show you can do it. Saying isn’t the same as showing.

Also, “squat” does not mean the same thing as “a squat”. Your apparent lack of this knowledge demonstrates that you are struggling with English and explains away why much of what you post is anathema to the percipient mind.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:03 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:58 pm Yes, otherwise I would not be bothering to spend all my time working out a solution which I intend to inforn the reader of this forum.

Well, I dunno. You seem to have very poor judgment when it comes to the seriousness of problems. You spend a lot of your time worrying about paradoxes/contradictions. Me? I just ignore them and the problem goes away.

but I'm not talking about paradoxes and contradictions why do you keep repeating these pointless mantras to me?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:58 pm No one invents suffering. Just as no one invents breathing.

I'm not selling a solution. I am giving it away for free.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:03 pmYou most definitely are! You are yet to convince me that "suffering" is even a serious problem.

Suffering is a problem for me, and is why I seek to address the problem by discussing it here on this public platform.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:03 pmDoes suffering go away if you just ignore it?

Yes, but I'm not concerned with that, I'm more concerned with that which can go away can return - can you make suffering disappear for ever? That's what I'd like to talk about.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:03 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:59 pm To address the problem of suffering.

OK. Before you jump into solutions, can you at least state your understanding of the problem.

My understanding of the problem is that it's unpleasant.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:08 pm But you claimed you don’t need to be able to do something in order to be able to show you can do it. Saying isn’t the same as showing.

I also claimed that paradoxes/contradictions don't matter to me. So what is confusing you? It it some paradoxical/self-contradictory thing I said or do you have an actual objection?

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:08 pm Also, “squat” does not mean the same thing as “a squat”. Your apparent lack of this knowledge demonstrates that you are struggling with English and explains away why much of what you post is anathema to the percipient mind.

And what you are struggling with expressing is the intent behind your words. If you want me to do something, my first question is always "Why?"

State your goal - save me the preaching. If your goal is to play language games, I will fuck you at your own game.

Simply: Don't beat around the bush - just ask for what you want. Playing these silly language games is part of suffering. Suffering idiots. If your intent is to play the language games for its own sake, you are the furthest thing from a 'percipient mind'.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:17 pm I will fuck you at your own game.

Simply: Don't beat around the bush - just ask for what you want. Playing these stilly language games is part of suffering. Suffering idiots.

Pardon me for interjecting - but telling ''commonsense'' ( I will fuck you at your own game )

When the person asn't even implied they are playing that game. Why do you feel the need to fuck them over for ? Is that all you care about?