What makes you puke?

[ForCruxSake]

Here's my first pass at what the future replacement for humans will be: Artificial intelligence will be the next stage in evolution.[1][2] Human-machine hybrids would have superhuman intelligence, far surpassing that of the brightest and most gifted human mind. Powerful AI will have ntelligent software, that could reprogram itself.[3] The improved software will be even better at improving itself, leading to even better intelligence.[4] These hybrids will eventually evolve to a state of no longer needing humans. Their intellectual capacity will eventually end civilization.[3] Surviving humans will be living in a post-apocalyptic world. Governments will disintegrate into a dog-eat-dog social environment wherein the strongest brutes will own everything thrown aside by the superintelligent machines. Clandestine schools will attempt to educate humans. Implements will be manually constructed from natural materials. Food, clothing and shelter will be secured in pre-historic fashion. Sustainability will be a major challenge for humans.
1.Minsky, Marvin (1986). The Society of Mind. New York: Simon and Schuster. p. 52. ISBN 0-671-60740-5
2.Dyson, George (1998). Darwin among the Machines. Allan Lane Science. ISBN 0-7382-0030-1
3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificia ... telligence. Accessed 5/4/2017.
4.Omohundro, Steve (2008). The Nature of Self-Improving Artificial Intelligence. presented and distributed at the 2007 Singularity Summit, San
Francisco, CA.

At this stage one can perhaps think of humans as "dinosaurs" and the superhuman hybrids as emerging "birds" - as one story comes to a close, others begin.

Nice one. I see another Hollywood movie in the making, here: 'Jurassic Fools'.

[Greta]

Here's my first pass at what the future replacement for humans will be: Artificial intelligence will be the next stage in evolution.[1][2] Human-machine hybrids would have superhuman intelligence, far surpassing that of the brightest and most gifted human mind. Powerful AI will have ntelligent software, that could reprogram itself.[3] The improved software will be even better at improving itself, leading to even better intelligence.[4] These hybrids will eventually evolve to a state of no longer needing humans. Their intellectual capacity will eventually end civilization.[3] Surviving humans will be living in a post-apocalyptic world. Governments will disintegrate into a dog-eat-dog social environment wherein the strongest brutes will own everything thrown aside by the superintelligent machines. Clandestine schools will attempt to educate humans. Implements will be manually constructed from natural materials. Food, clothing and shelter will be secured in pre-historic fashion. Sustainability will be a major challenge for humans.
1.Minsky, Marvin (1986). The Society of Mind. New York: Simon and Schuster. p. 52. ISBN 0-671-60740-5
2.Dyson, George (1998). Darwin among the Machines. Allan Lane Science. ISBN 0-7382-0030-1
3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificia ... telligence. Accessed 5/4/2017.
4.Omohundro, Steve (2008). The Nature of Self-Improving Artificial Intelligence. presented and distributed at the 2007 Singularity Summit, San
Francisco, CA.

At this stage one can perhaps think of humans as "dinosaurs" and the superhuman hybrids as emerging "birds" - as one story comes to a close, others begin.

Nice one. I see another Hollywood movie in the making, here: 'Jurassic Fools'.

Why fools? I don't see humanity as having a choice in all this. It's impossible to coordinate seven billion humans with competing interests so whatever discipline is attained by one society will be exploited by another. We have broadly developed about the only way we could develop under the circumstances. It's not as though humanity emerged with a user manual.

[ForCruxSake]

At this stage one can perhaps think of humans as "dinosaurs" and the superhuman hybrids as emerging "birds" - as one story comes to a close, others begin.

Nice one. I see another Hollywood movie in the making, here: 'Jurassic Fools'.

Why fools? I don't see humanity as having a choice in all this. It's impossible to coordinate seven billion humans with competing interests so whatever discipline is attained by one society will be exploited by another. We have broadly developed about the only way we could develop under the circumstances. It's not as though humanity emerged with a user manual.

Because what they are doing will ultimately bring about their demise. The fact that you and I can discuss this, and this still somehow happen, is incredulous. Man knows what can happen. It's 'The Man' who will let it happen.

(Somehow that last sentence makes me feel I'm talking from a 1970's blaxploitation movie perspective.

Now it's going to be a challenge to keep the movie theme going... )

[commonsense]

Why fools? I don't see humanity as having a choice in all this. It's impossible to coordinate seven billion humans with competing interests (emphasis added) so whatever discipline is attained by one society will be exploited by another. We have broadly developed about the only way we could develop under the circumstances. It's not as though humanity emerged with a user manual.

Competing--yes, but there may also be a common interest to reclaim a degree of autonomy from the robots. I wonder how the competing interests will play against the common one. What about human ethics in the face of all this, and what about an ethical code, if any, for the sentient, self-reproducing machines? Would they create one or would they coopt human morality?

(Is this where our discussion becomes more philosophic in nature?).

[henry quirk]

Bad tuna makes me puke.

What grinds my gears?

Right now it's the hypocrisy of those who publicly grieve over the death of free speech (or who claim to champion free speech) even as they look to -- big stick in hand -- deprive others of free speech.

Yeah, that chafes my ass big time.

[Walker]

PC is gag worthy.

This woman politician says that diversity is the military’s greatest strength.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/oh-t ... greatest-s



Without checking, odds are pretty good that she also says global warming is the greatest threat.
Or whatever they call it these days.

Funny how all the beliefs are pre-packaged and predictable.
- Like, if a PC'er separates one of them out, the whole edifice might crumble.


The block of pre-packaged PC beliefs allows for no diversity of thought.

[henry quirk]

Warren, being a commie dumbass, doesn't worry me.

That a whole whack of folks agree with her, that there worries me.

[Arising_uk]

A "commie", you people are bonkers.

[henry quirk]

Bonkers cuz I think she's a communitarian, or, bonkers cuz I think communitarianism is for shit, or...?

[Arising_uk]

No bonkers because you think she's a communist.

She was a republican apparently and now she's a democrat and neither are anything near being a communist.

You are such a strange bunch tearing yourselves apart when you're all right-wing free-market capitalists(apart from the trumpette I guess), still I the most vicious rows can be between family.

[Ginkgo]

Overeating makes me puke.

Bob Evenson's posts make me puke.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

PC is gag worthy.

This woman politician says that diversity is the military’s greatest strength.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/oh-t ... greatest-s



Without checking, odds are pretty good that she also says global warming is the greatest threat.
Or whatever they call it these days.

Funny how all the beliefs are pre-packaged and predictable.
- Like, if a PC'er separates one of them out, the whole edifice might crumble.


The block of pre-packaged PC beliefs allows for no diversity of thought.

Idiot. Global warming has nothing to do with PC. It's scientific fact.

[Greta]

Nice one. I see another Hollywood movie in the making, here: 'Jurassic Fools'.

Why fools? I don't see humanity as having a choice in all this. It's impossible to coordinate seven billion humans with competing interests so whatever discipline is attained by one society will be exploited by another. We have broadly developed about the only way we could develop under the circumstances. It's not as though humanity emerged with a user manual.

Because what they are doing will ultimately bring about their demise. The fact that you and I can discuss this, and this still somehow happen, is incredulous. Man knows what can happen. It's 'The Man' who will let it happen.

There is no "letting". It is all completely unavoidable. Even if humans did everything "right" we might have maybe delayed our current strife by a little but in the end we'd still reach this point. Once a species becomes so dominant there is no other possibility than the one that is manifesting. Intelligence means nothing in this context due to tragedies of the commons.

Those who are driving the change are not fools. They know that billions of poor people are in danger this century, but poor people are not their concern.

[Greta]

Global warming has nothing to do with PC.

It does in the White House where one is not permitted to mention the term "climate change" on US government websites. It's easy to imagine the massive faux pas it would be to use the term in many Republican circles.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Global warming has nothing to do with PC.

It does in the White House where one is not permitted to use the "CC term" on US government websites. Australian federal government websites are similarly worried about the "offensive term" and actively work to quash its use.

Yes. I have noticed that Australia is fast catching up with the US in basic cretinism. They are deliberately denying it because they want to continue to pillage the planet and suck its resources-- and stuff the consequences. They know it's happening. Just as religious top brass know evolution is true. There's a lot of money to be made lying to idiots. I don't see how political correctness fits in though, but then Americans have a huge problem understanding the most basic terms. Look at Henry insisting everyone he disagrees with is a 'communist'.