Talking to a killer

[Hobbes' Choice]

It seems the Forum has attracted another attention seeker.
Why not give him what he wants and try to come up with explanations for his name abbreviation.
TSBU

Such as The Stupid Bloody Uncle-fucker.

It's funny, because it means "talk should be usefull" XD
But go ahead, looks like I catch your attention...

I think you got that wrong. You are better characterised by Talk Shouldn't Be Useless.

Now, have you actually got an interesting question?

[TSBU]

It's funny, because it means "talk should be usefull" XD
But go ahead, looks like I catch your attention...

I think you got that wrong. You are better characterised by Talk Shouldn't Be Useless.

Now, have you actually got an interesting question?

Back in the school XD
Yes. How did you get so good at insulting people? That really hurts man... that technique... uf you are ptobably going to talk about my mum and my sexuality... I better hide. But I'm the attention seeker.

[Hobbes' Choice]

It's funny, because it means "talk should be usefull" XD
But go ahead, looks like I catch your attention...

I think you got that wrong. You are better characterised by Talk Shouldn't Be Useless.

Now, have you actually got an interesting question?

Back in the school XD
Yes. How did you get so good at insulting people? That really hurts man... that technique... uf you are ptobably going to talk about my mum and my sexuality... I better hide. But I'm the attention seeker.

Here's a question for you. What is "XD"?

[Terrapin Station]

You asked this on the other forum and I answered there.

My answer is the same: I'd spend some time trying to get to know the killer better, especially his ethical views, and I'd tailor my persuasion to his ethical views.

Of course, that might not work. There's no guarantee that anything would work. But that's the only thing that would work for him to self-motivate to stop. It needs to seem like the wrong thing to do to him, as a consequence of ethical views that he already has.

[Arising_uk]

Well, the hypo murderer is a person, so you shouldn't use plural. And there are or can be many kinds of murderers. I didn't say that there is an "only aproach". ...

Not sure you should be correcting grammar when you can't use a spell-checker nor spell words in full.

Who said this then? "The only approach I see is to ignore and not play the game." as I quoted it from your post.

Of course, in this hypo, reporting him is useless, because I said that police is looking for him (so they already know it).

No it's not as all clues and evidence is of value when hunting for or prosecuting a serial killer. On top of that one may also be an accessory to the crime by not reporting it.

Lol, a lot of answers to this thread are always filled with resentment XD. "I wonder why are there so many people in forums who go to a thread over and over to say that they don't have time to waste it in that thread"

Who are you talking to?

[TSBU]

Well, the hypo murderer is a person, so you shouldn't use plural. And there are or can be many kinds of murderers. I didn't say that there is an "only aproach". ...

Not sure you should be correcting grammar when you can't use a spell-checker nor spell words in full.

Fair enough, you are right XD. I wasn't correcting grammar though, I... thought that "are" was a word only for many things. Sorry about that.

Who said this then? "The only approach I see is to ignore and not play the game." as I quoted it from your post.

I don't remember, I think it was you (I'm not sure), but the person who said that, said it without the "I see" part, I just added that part, because there are more than one aproach, and a person who says that there is only one aproach, must say that there is only one aproach "as far as je knows". I'm worse than I thought in English if I'm wrong in grammar about that.

Of course, in this hypo, reporting him is useless, because I said that police is looking for him (so they already know it).

No it's not as all clues and evidence is of value when hunting for or prosecuting a serial killer. On top of that one may also be an accessory to the crime by not reporting it.

Well, I asume that police were in that sites already (so there is no need to call them), but ok. They may not be aware of what's happening, that's right.

Lol, a lot of answers to this thread are always filled with resentment XD. "I wonder why are there so many people in forums who go to a thread over and over to say that they don't have time to waste it in that thread"

Who are you talking to?

That was an answer for those who talk "to the air2, I said it to the air too, just to make an example. In your case, I like how you post, no insults, you look honest and say what you think directly, no sarcasm...and I'm gratefull for that, so that wasn't for you.

You asked this on the other forum and I answered there.

My answer is the same: I'd spend some time trying to get to know the killer better, especially his ethical views, and I'd tailor my persuasion to his ethical views.

Of course, that might not work. There's no guarantee that anything would work. But that's the only thing that would work for him to self-motivate to stop. It needs to seem like the wrong thing to do to him, as a consequence of ethical views that he already has.

Thank you for the answer. Anyway, in this case, you don't know, maybe he is killing for pleasure, maybe he is an attention seeker, maybe killing and ethics don't mean anything to him.
I find interesting how many people seem to know a killer that doesn't even exist.

(Maybe you are thinking about me, and not about the killer... I must say that, at first, I was surprised seeing how many people felt that I was a killer/protoKiller only because I post this. There were some painters in history, that painted lots of death bodys and creepy things, ey, look at Shakespeare... some people may felt that they were perverts, but when they were asked, and confirmed by the people who knew them, they said that only by looking at the darkest places in the human soul, we can fight bad. Well, I'm not like that painters, but I find very curious how people answer to this, how do they deal with the unknown, with things that they can't understand, that's all, I can imagine a killer, but that doesn't make me a killer, and, in my thoughts, trying to avoid thinking in "ugly" things, is more twisted).

[Terrapin Station]

Thank you for the answer. Anyway, in this case, you don't know, maybe he is killing for pleasure, maybe he is an attention seeker, maybe killing and ethics don't mean anything to him.

First, everyone has ethical stances, whether they call them that or not. Everyone has things that they feel it's cool/not cool to do re interpersonal behavior, whether we're talking about towards other people, or other people towards them. That's all that that ethics is. So all I'm saying is that I'd work on getting to know him better, because the only thing that would work is appealing to views that he already has.

[TSBU]

Thank you for the answer. Anyway, in this case, you don't know, maybe he is killing for pleasure, maybe he is an attention seeker, maybe killing and ethics don't mean anything to him.

First, everyone has ethical stances, whether they call them that or not. Everyone has things that they feel it's cool/not cool to do re interpersonal behavior, whether we're talking about towards other people, or other people towards them. That's all that that ethics is. So all I'm saying is that I'd work on getting to know him better, because the only thing that would work is appealing to views that he already has.

Ah, ok, then we agree XD (Sorry, now I'm looking for what I've found)

[Arising_uk]

First, everyone has ethical stances, whether they call them that or not. Everyone has things that they feel it's cool/not cool to do re interpersonal behavior, whether we're talking about towards other people, or other people towards them. That's all that that ethics is. So all I'm saying is that I'd work on getting to know him better, because the only thing that would work is appealing to views that he already has.

In NLP this is called finding the positive intention, every action, no matter what, has a positive intention behind it, find that and then maybe you can find some other behaviour that would satisfy the intention instead of the original.

[Terrapin Station]

First, everyone has ethical stances, whether they call them that or not. Everyone has things that they feel it's cool/not cool to do re interpersonal behavior, whether we're talking about towards other people, or other people towards them. That's all that that ethics is. So all I'm saying is that I'd work on getting to know him better, because the only thing that would work is appealing to views that he already has.

In NLP this is called finding the positive intention, every action, no matter what, has a positive intention behind it, find that and then maybe you can find some other behaviour that would satisfy the intention instead of the original.

I'd approach it more via reasoning--as there's probably a good chance that he has some ethical views (again, whether he calls them that or not) that would conflict with his actions. So it would be appealing to his sense of consistency (which might work differently than others' senses of consistency).

[Hobbes' Choice]

Thank you for the answer. Anyway, in this case, you don't know, maybe he is killing for pleasure, maybe he is an attention seeker, maybe killing and ethics don't mean anything to him.

First, everyone has ethical stances, whether they call them that or not. Everyone has things that they feel it's cool/not cool to do re interpersonal behavior, whether we're talking about towards other people, or other people towards them. That's all that that ethics is. So all I'm saying is that I'd work on getting to know him better, because the only thing that would work is appealing to views that he already has.

Ah, ok, then we agree XD (Sorry, now I'm looking for what I've found)

What the fuck is XD?

[FlashDangerpants]

What the fuck is XD?

It's this





Although one of these would be more appropriate for this thread.
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[Hobbes' Choice]

What the fuck is XD?

It's this





Although one of these would be more appropriate for this thread.
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Gee thanks.
Not sure where that gets me, but does not look good for the coherence of TSBU.

[ken]

I will play. I would just ask the killer why she wants to kill others.

So, why do you want to kill people?

[ken]

What he posted in internet at the begining was "I want you to say why should I stop killing people, I will read at least 20 pages of posts every day and I'll answer to what I consider interesting, if this thread is deleted, I will kill more than now, and move to other site".

You want Me to say why you should stop killing people, but I do not want you to stop killing people, I want to know why should you stop killing people?

What would you do?

What I just did and ask questions.

What would you say?

Ask clarifying questions mostly.

What do you consider authorities would do?

I do not really care.

Why?

Because 'authoritism' is usually the cause of why people do wrong, like murder, in the first place.

-I'm not a real murderer,

I wish you were. This would be fun for Me in real, and for others to watch. Your responses also would be very enlightening for others to see.

-Yes, this is an interesting philosophic topic: how do you see or treat people who hurt other people? (ethic),

The exact same way I see and treat people who love other people.

Would you consider the possibility of being wrong? (philosophy of mind, and ethic),

Yes, always.

Can a murderer be like the one I'm going to play?...

I guess so. It would all depend, I guess, on how much you really want to "play" and how well you can do that.