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Re: What kind of reasoning concludes God exists?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:13 pm
by Reflex
thedoc wrote: The act might be 100% do or don't, but the commitment is not always 100% to the act.
That's the point. In matters of religion, it's 100% or nothing; none of the lukewarm nonsense. Religion is a way of living. To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. And this is just why the God of worship requires 100% commitment or none.

Re: What kind of reasoning concludes God exists?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:26 pm
by thedoc
Reflex wrote:
thedoc wrote: The act might be 100% do or don't, but the commitment is not always 100% to the act.
That's the point. In matters of religion, it's 100% or nothing; none of the lukewarm nonsense. Religion is a way of living. To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. And this is just why the God of worship requires 100% commitment or none.
I would agree that is what is being called for by those who are suppose to represent God in the church, but I would disagree that all those who attend services on Sun, or whatever day they choose, are 100% committed to that religion. Some only do lip service to the religion. I heard an account of a member of a church who made a great show of putting a $20 bill in the offering plate each Sun, but one Sun when the money was counted there was no $20 bill in the offering. It seems that he was counting on others to contribute a $20 bill to cover the fact that he removed the bill after making a show of putting it in the plate. Certainly there was less than 100% commitment in that case.

Re: What kind of reasoning concludes God exists?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:35 pm
by Reflex
thedoc wrote:
Reflex wrote:
thedoc wrote: The act might be 100% do or don't, but the commitment is not always 100% to the act.
That's the point. In matters of religion, it's 100% or nothing; none of the lukewarm nonsense. Religion is a way of living. To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. And this is just why the God of worship requires 100% commitment or none.
I would agree that is what is being called for by those who are suppose to represent God in the church, but I would disagree that all those who attend services on Sun, or whatever day they choose, are 100% committed to that religion. Some only do lip service to the religion. I heard an account of a member of a church who made a great show of putting a $20 bill in the offering plate each Sun, but one Sun when the money was counted there was no $20 bill in the offering. It seems that he was counting on others to contribute a $20 bill to cover the fact that he removed the bill after making a show of putting it in the plate. Certainly there was less than 100% commitment in that case.
Again, that's the point. That's why it's either 100% or nothing.

100% commitment does not mean closing oneself to change; it can include commitment to progress as well.