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Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:55 pm
by Dubious
uwot wrote:I have no reason to believe that others who have spoken out against Scruton are any less informed than I am, and that we have all reached our decisions based on what Scruton himself says.
That's a fair conclusion. In spite of whatever impression others think I may have of him, I remain uncertain. He wouldn't be the first to have prematurely worn out the welcome mat upon further review. Removed from his other writings, most interesting (to me) is his analysis of Wagner's Ring and the incorporation of music into philosophy. Not an easy project!
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:18 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Dubious wrote:
Dubious wrote:I won't submit to the absurd idea that it (Scruton's fox hunting) tells you everything about Scruton or that nothing he's written is consequently worthwhile.
Clearly you ain't British.
Wearing the Pink in the English countryside, is very much the same as Wearing a swastika. He knows what it means and so does every other Brit.
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:43 pm
by Dubious
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Dubious wrote:
Dubious wrote:I won't submit to the absurd idea that it (Scruton's fox hunting) tells you everything about Scruton or that nothing he's written is consequently worthwhile.
Clearly you ain't British.
Wearing the Pink in the English countryside, is very much the same as Wearing a swastika. He knows what it means and so does every other Brit.
You're right, I'm not a Brit and don't know what "wearing the Pink in the English country side" means. Care to give me an idea? But first let me guess according to context. The outfits that fox hunters wear have some element of pink in them and the folk of the English country side despise fox hunting and what it stood for...or something like it. Does that sound reasonable for a first guess?
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:49 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Dubious wrote:
You're right, I'm not a Brit and don't know what "wearing the Pink in the English country side" means. Care to give me an idea? But first let me guess according to context. The outfits that fox hunters wear have some element of pink in them and the folk of the English country side despise fox hunting and what it stood for...or something like it. Does that sound reasonable for a first guess?
It's not what is 'stood' for. It's what it stands for. No respecting person would participate.
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:03 pm
by Dubious
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Dubious wrote:
You're right, I'm not a Brit and don't know what "wearing the Pink in the English country side" means. Care to give me an idea? But first let me guess according to context. The outfits that fox hunters wear have some element of pink in them and the folk of the English country side despise fox hunting and what it stood for...or something like it. Does that sound reasonable for a first guess?
It's not what is 'stood' for. It's what it stands for. No respecting person would participant.
Ok, what it "stands" for is more up to date. Since there was no further explanation from you it seems that my "guess" seems to have some credibility.
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:46 pm
by tbieter
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:57 pm
by tbieter
Is Scruton's thought best described as conservative or reactionary?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/opini ... ter=google
Re: Roger Scruton
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:32 pm
by duszek
It´s good to know what one disagrees with and why.
A excellent exposition of a point of view one disagrees with helps to clarify one´s own mind.
Oscar Wilde appreciated the intelligence of his enemies, I don´t remember how he put it.