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Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:47 pm
by bobevenson
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The letter amounts to nothing.
No, he said, "What can I say? Your argument is fascinating, tightly-reasoned, for sure. But I have to wonder, is it true?"

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:50 pm
by Melchior
bobevenson wrote:Does he have to turn water into wine, or what, exactly?
If he turned water into Gaja Barbaresco I might be impressed.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:53 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
bobevenson wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The letter amounts to nothing.
No, he said, "What can I say? Your argument is fascinating, tightly-reasoned, for sure. But I have to wonder, is it true?"
You've had this explained to you again, and again.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:57 pm
by bobevenson
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The letter amounts to nothing.
No, he said, "What can I say? Your argument is fascinating, tightly-reasoned, for sure. But I have to wonder, is it true?"
You've had this explained to you again, and again.
Why don't you explain it once again, fool, so I can confirm how dumb you really are.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:24 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:Does he have to turn water into wine, or what, exactly?
I suppose one "thing" that would be required to convince me would be to have some sort of ability to "pierce my soul" in some sort of disarming way that would leave some sort of lasting effect upon me (hopefully a good one). Certainly belligerence would be the last thing I would look for in a prophet, although, I'm sure that under certain relatively rare circumstances a prophet might even display belligerence toward specific others.

I don't think I've ever met a "prophet", at least not that I am aware of, so it is hard for me to pinpoint what would convince me. I sort of have this prejudice in my thinking that if I ever did meet a prophet I would somehow be aware of it through some magical means. Other than that, no, a prophet wouldn't necessarily need to turn water into wine, at least not for me to believe them. I would expect something like that from a god but not necessarily a prophet.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:22 pm
by bobevenson
Gary Childress wrote:I don't think I've ever met a "prophet", at least not that I am aware of, so it is hard for me to pinpoint what would convince me.
Yes, I think I understand what you mean. And it can't be just a message because anybody can come up with a message, and who's to say it's divinely inspired? I think it has to be something more indirect, like mystical coincidences that seem to come out of nowhere and beyond anybody's control. Like for instance, English gematria simplex (A=1 to Z=26). The Greek form of Jesus (Iesous) adds up to 888 in classical Greek gematria (one above the mystical perfection of 777). Iesous adds up to 88 in E.g.s., Christ to 77, mankind to 66 and Satan to 55. Mankind is positioned between Christ and Satan in Ouzo combinations (like the bidding game of Ouzo). You know, things like that.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:48 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:I don't think I've ever met a "prophet", at least not that I am aware of, so it is hard for me to pinpoint what would convince me.
Yes, I think I understand what you mean. And it can't be just a message because anybody can come up with a message, and who's to say it's divinely inspired? I think it has to be something more indirect, like mystical coincidences that seem to come out of nowhere and beyond anybody's control. Like for instance, English gematria simplex (A=1 to Z=26). The Greek form of Jesus (Iesous) adds up to 888 in classical Greek gematria (one above the mystical perfection of 777). Iesous adds up to 88 in E.g.s., Christ to 77, mankind to 66 and Satan to 55. Mankind is positioned between Christ and Satan in Ouzo combinations (like the bidding game of Ouzo). You know, things like that.
Interesting. Isn't mankind supposed to be 5 and Satan 666 or something like that, though? Numerology is a bit iffy for me as a sign of someone being a prophet. I'm diagnosed schizoaffective and have had delusional episodes that resembled such notions of "cosmic coincidences" and what not. I'm stabilized on meds now and see the difference so I'm more than a little skeptical about "signs" from God and stuff like that. However, I don't rule out the possibility that there may exist some truly "enlightened" or "mystical" state of being where a person can radiate some sort of influence over others that is somehow above and beyond the norm or whatever. I don't know if it should be called "charisma" or "aura" or what, but I guess there's a little superstition in me since I've read of so called "mystic experiences" which other (very noteworthy) individuals have supposedly had.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:58 pm
by bobevenson
Actually, "The Ouzo Prophecy" discusses the various interpretations of the number 666 referred to in Revelation 13:18, and introduces an automatically written interpretation not found anywhere else.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:08 pm
by Gary Childress
bobevenson wrote:Actually, "The Ouzo Prophecy" discusses the various interpretations of the number 666 referred to in Revelation 13:18, and introduces an automatically written interpretation not found anywhere else.
Never heard of the Ouzo prophecy. What exactly is the Ouzo prophecy? I Googled the term and came up with your name a few times. Do you consider yourself a prophet? :?

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:20 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Actually, "The Ouzo Prophecy" discusses the various interpretations of the number 666 referred to in Revelation 13:18, and introduces an automatically written interpretation not found anywhere else.
Never heard of the Ouzo prophecy. What exactly is the Ouzo prophecy? I Googled the term and came up with your name a few times. Do you consider yourself a prophet? :?
You were made for each other. I'm sure Bob has a lot to tell, and you have a lot to learn. Enjoy!

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:21 pm
by bobevenson
Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Actually, "The Ouzo Prophecy" discusses the various interpretations of the number 666 referred to in Revelation 13:18, and introduces an automatically written interpretation not found anywhere else.
Never heard of the Ouzo prophecy. What exactly is the Ouzo prophecy? I Googled the term and came up with your name a few times. Do you consider yourself a prophet? :?
Not to sound pretentious, but yes, I do, and I can provide other mystical occurrences that point to it. As far as "The Ouzo Prophecy," it can be found at http://church-of-ouzo.com.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:31 pm
by Gary Childress
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Actually, "The Ouzo Prophecy" discusses the various interpretations of the number 666 referred to in Revelation 13:18, and introduces an automatically written interpretation not found anywhere else.
Never heard of the Ouzo prophecy. What exactly is the Ouzo prophecy? I Googled the term and came up with your name a few times. Do you consider yourself a prophet? :?
You were made for each other. I'm sure Bob has a lot to tell, and you have a lot to learn. Enjoy!
Gee, thanks. :lol:

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:58 pm
by Obvious Leo
Lacewing wrote:Are you completely dense?
This is a rhetorical question, right?

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:59 pm
by thedoc
Gary Childress wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote: You were made for each other. I'm sure Bob has a lot to tell, and you have a lot to learn. Enjoy!
Gee, thanks. :lol:
More importantly, don't buy anything, what would just be feeding the Troll.

Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:03 pm
by Gary Childress
thedoc wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote: You were made for each other. I'm sure Bob has a lot to tell, and you have a lot to learn. Enjoy!
Gee, thanks. :lol:
More importantly, don't buy anything, what would just be feeding the Troll.
Thanks for the advice. :)