~ It's Time For a Woman to be in the White House ~

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

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Actually, the masses do make choices in a Democracy, they make the judgement call.
We in America are offered many more than two parties and two candidates.

Imagine going to a store, and being able to pick from many different items.






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While nice in theory, a more accurate depiction would be going to the store, and after you go to the counter having the clerk tell you every item you buy is not for sale. The store is full of items, but none of the items actually have the possibility of being attained.

The people cannot make good judgement calls, as most lack the capacity for logical reason and judgement.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I'm not very savvy at all about politics anymore...matter of fact, this coming 2016 elections will be the first time in my adult life where I WILL NOT VOTE...again, IF a woman is not nominated by a political party for the presidency of the United States.

I just don't care anymore. I feel we are soooo fucked-up and upside-down in the states that politics is at the point where instead of attempting to making things better politics and politicians are making life in America for coming generations MUCH WORSE.



I think a woman, ANY woman is much more socialized and nurturing.


If Sarah Palin is nominated for President first - YES I will vote for her.





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[Bill Wiltrack]

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In reality voting is like going to the store, and after you go to the counter known as a voting booth and buy the item or items you wish by casting a ballot. All of the items you wish actually have the possibility of being attained when you vote.

People make good judgement calls for themselves based upon their capacity for logical reason and judgement.







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Time to get out of your stodgy mental framework - stretch yourself & have some fun!




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[artisticsolution]

Bill, it is a mistake to think women are that much different than men. We are human beings just like men. I think your views are borderline sexist.

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How is only being offered two parties and two candidates fair at all? Imagine going to every store, and only being able to pick from two items, and each store had the exact same two items to pick from, these two items being a foodwater generic lifesupport beverage and a pair of used dirty socks.

If this is true, how did Obamacare come about?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Sexist is a good thing.


Sexist means that I perceive possible differences between the sexes.


Sexist is different from sexism in this respect.





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[artisticsolution]

According to you you're going to pick anyone as long as it is a woman, so you'd vote for Palin if she was the only female candidate.

All this yakking is because you think Clinton is going to be a shoo-in as the republicans are in disarray but all we see over here is a democracy that is run by wealthy oligarchs and first families with few exceptions.

Clinton is not going to be a shoo-in. There is no way she can win. Maybe she could run for vice president but still she will not be an asset.

Obama won because he was new and fresh and basically had a clean slate. Republicans tried to ape the same when they choose Plain but it backfired because, although she did have a "clean slate" she was not intelligent enough to know what to say and what not to say.

Clinton does not have a clean slate and what's worse is now that she was secretary of state and people know more about her, I don't think she can run on her husbands coattails anymore.

Besides, the only way a woman is getting in is if she runs for vice pres and then the pres dies.

I don't think the USA is there yet to elect a woman on her own merit.

[artisticsolution]

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Sexist is a good thing.


Sexist means that I perceive possible differences between the sexes.


Sexist is different from sexism in this respect..

I am a woman and I can tell you the difference you see is a cultural one. This is how you were taught to view women. But you can never know if this is true or not since you are not a woman.

The fact that you think this makes you the worst type of sexist. One who will not allow change, who sees a woman as someone put on this earth for your benefit however it might please you. We might as well be very sweet nurturing cattle.

I was thinking about this very thing last night. When I was young I thought I could raise a child alone. I did not understand until I had kids that I was fooling myself into thinking since I was a woman I would be good at nurturing. It was not true. I could never have done it without my husband. He was both mother and father to my kids. He taught me how to be a mother.

I, a woman, admit it. I suck at nurturing. My husband, a man, nurtured not only my children but myself as well.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Bill, it is a mistake to think women are that much different than men. We are human beings just like men. I think your views are borderline sexist.

There is a difference between the sexes in many cases. But in politics theyre all the same.

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In reality voting is like going to the store, and after you go to the counter known as a voting booth and buy the item or items you wish by casting a ballot. All of the items you wish actually have the possibility of being attained when you vote.

The possibility exists in fantasy land, not reality.

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Time to get out of your stodgy mental framework - stretch yourself & have some fun!
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Throwing my votes into the wind so they can be stomped out by ignorant unenlightened masses is no stretch, nor is it fun.
If you believe that in this election, you can influence the bacteria known as the human race to vote for the president you desire who isn't part of the 2 handpicked puppets, the stodgy mental framework is yours, not mine.

I am a woman and I suck at nurturing

No kidding, most women have zero empathy these days. Still there are marked differences in behavoir between sexes. You can't say with any honesty that hormones like testosterone or estrogen has no effect on behavoirs. Theres a current trend of feminists lying their asses off to suit whatever dishonest agenda they have. Some feminists even claim that women are as strong as men, when anyone with a rational mind knows otherwise, as testosterone boosts muscle mass and bone density. Estrogen also causes emotional sensitivity. This is science, this is fact, the average modern feminist is a lying hipster. I cannot stand hipsters of either gender, they are whiny cowards who do nothing to forward their agendas.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I am fairly Sure "Bill" is a woman, or rather, the "Mizz" Wartrack the spouse of her husband Bill, to gain some male priviledges. It explains the odd mix of wisdom and lunacy, as well as the fancy text and over the top mannerisms, and theatrical antics.

[artisticsolution]

Trixie: No kidding, most women have zero empathy these days.

AS: Who said anything about empathy? Both my husband and I have huge amounts of empathy. I think that is why we have been able to stay married all these years.

You seem to think that woman are the only ones who have empathy. Weird.

The fact is, I had never been around babies before and he had. I loved my children but was not disciplined or organized. I learned those things from him. I learned what worked for my family from him. From what to do when they were sick to how to pack school lunches. I even used to copy the games he would play with them because he had a knack for coming up with fun educational things to do. It had nothing to do with empathy and everything to do with how he was raised. He was raised in a nurturing household with 2 parents. I was raised with a single mom who was mentally ill. I knew enough to know I did not want to raise my kids the way I was raised. I adapted and learned. Which is why I know men can also adapt and learn and be just as good as women in this respect.

Trixie: Still there are marked differences in behavoir between sexes.

AS: Yes there is, who is denying that? No one. Still, the differences are pretty much all aesthetic in nature.

Trixie: Some feminists even claim that women are as strong as men, when anyone with a rational mind knows otherwise, as testosterone boosts muscle mass and bone density.

AS: If SOME women are stronger than SOME men then that is all it take to prove them right. Or have you lost your common sense?

Trixie: Estrogen also causes emotional sensitivity. This is science, this is fact,

AS: What does that have to do with anything if men can be nurturing too? It is a fact that men and women have both testosterone and estrogen. It is a fact that as women age the production of estrogen declines, does this mean that grandmothers become less nurturing? It is a fact that as men age they produce less testosterone, does this mean they become more nurturing? I think it depends on the person. I think you are using science as a catch all for your agenda by omitting a some scientific facts in lieu of others that benefit your argument. tsk tsk.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

"AS: Who said anything about empathy? Both my husband and I have huge amounts of empathy. I think that is why we have been able to stay married all these years. "
Yeah, spock like emotionless empathy. You got your mind made up kind of empathy, and you do the right thing just because. A man's empathy.

"Which is why I know men can also adapt and learn and be just as good as women in this respect."

They adapt because xenoestrogens are pumped in the food and water.
Trixie: Still there are marked differences in behavoir between sexes.

"AS: Yes there is, who is denying that? No one. Still, the differences are pretty much all aesthetic in nature."

By aesthetic what do you mean? The differences are physical, spiritual, and mental.


"AS: If SOME women are stronger than SOME men then that is all it take to prove them right. Or have you lost your common sense?"

No and what you said is old news and common sense as well. Everybody knows that a body building woman can out lift a couple weakling men. Is the statement "men are stronger than women" true most of the time? Yes. You are grasping at straws.

Trixie: Estrogen also causes emotional sensitivity. This is science, this is fact,

"AS: What does that have to do with anything if men can be nurturing too? It is a fact that men and women have both testosterone and estrogen. It is a fact that as women age the production of estrogen declines, does this mean that grandmothers become less nurturing? It is a fact that as men age they produce less testosterone, does this mean they become more nurturing? tsk tsk."

No because estrogen already caused physical effects on their brain. Therefore it lasts in granny years.

[artisticsolution]

Hi strawdoggie....you cross dressing now?

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Hi strawdoggie....you cross dressing now?

Don't know who that is and I don't see how wearing a certain shape or color of cloth has any significance. Humanapes and their silly trends, 100 years ago pants weren't allowed and 400 years ago high heels were meant for males. Humanapes social customs have no consistency, no truth, only silly waste of time delusions. I don't even keep up with their gender rules anymore, they are so silly.

[Arising_uk]

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I think a woman, ANY woman is much more socialized and nurturing. ...

You live in an antediluvian patriarchal fantasy. We've had a woman running things and she crushed the unions, dismantled our industrial base, wasted north sea oil upon unemployment and sold our society to the city.

If Sarah Palin is nominated for President first - YES I will vote for her.[/size].

So much for the democrat.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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The antediluvian (or pre-diluvian) period—meaning "before the deluge"—is the period referred to in the Bible between the Fall of man and the Deluge (flood) in the biblical cosmology. The narrative takes up chapters 1-6 (excluding the flood narrative) of Genesis. The term found its way into early geology and lingered in science until the late Victorian era. Colloquially, the term is used to refer to any ancient and murky period.



I know I live in a fantasy world...we ALL do.


Antediluvian patriarchal fantasy is a mouthful but - I'll go with it.


...only thing is I believe we are well into the deluge already. But that's not an aspect for me that I would care to contest.


I have no problem in what you are saying...





...just scratchin my head a bit as to why the push-back - WEAK push-back, but push-back none the less against a woman - ANY woman in the White House.






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