Does The State Have Any Moral Obligations?

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henry quirk wrote:Only if 'it' can catch me.
Not only will the government catch you, they'll probably waterboard your ass.
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According to the FBI: 40%, on average, of all murders remain unsolved.

I can live within that margin.

*shrug*
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henry quirk wrote:According to the FBI: 40%, on average, of all murders remain unsolved.

I can live within that margin.

*shrug*
That percentage applies to murderers, not slime dogs.
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henry quirk wrote:"Self defense is something for the police and judicial system to decide."

If you wanna put 'your self' in the care of others, that's your affair.

Not trusting the other guy to be as interested in my living as 'me', *I'll decide what the appropriate criteria is for my self-defense.

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"the king of the jungle, is a temporary position"

SOB,

You got a bad habit of stating the obvious.

You seem to think I haven't fully considered all the consequences (intended and unintended) of living as I do.

Do me a favor: if you imagine you've come up with a novel objection to my way, please take it for granted that I've already thought of, and dismissed, it.









*this also applies to where and how I dispose of what's left after my defense of self...not spendin' a day in the slam cuz I remove a piece of garbage from the playing field
Either you're psychotic, or a braggart of a liar, beating your chest, like a mock ape-man. If you are really into a kill or be killed life, I tell you that it's in FACT, "YOU" that put yourself there, which is exactly what I've been trying to tell you all along. That kind of crap, today, doesn't "come" to one, rather one "creates" it, and if they can't understand this, there is something wrong with their brain!
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Allow me. SOB, to state the obvious for a change.

This, kill or be killed, is reality for ALL life.

It always has been...it always will be.

There is no insulating yourself from it.

You can pretend otherwise if you like, but, you're up to your neck in the same shit as the rest of us.

'nuff said.
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You're obviously a throwback to the Stone Age.
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henry quirk wrote:According to the FBI: 40%, on average, of all murders remain unsolved.

I can live within that margin.

*shrug*
You sometimes come off as an idiot, case in point. If any of the crap you've said was true, you had better be looking over your shoulder, right now, because if you think LEA can't track you via this site, you're even a bigger fool than your, so called, view on "LIFE," seems to indicate. Do you even know what an onion router is? Well you had better have been using one, all this time, and even that's not a sure thing!

"Sheesh, anything to be a tough guy, I tell you some people "just don't get it, they just don't get it!""


Neurotica
By Rush



"You just don't get it
What it is ... well, you're not really sure
You move like you're walking on thin ice
Talking like you're still insecure

Time is a spiral -- space is a curve
I know you get dizzy, but try not to lose your nerve
Life is a diamond you turn into dust
Waiting for rescue, and I know that you just
Don't get it
You just don't get it

Neurotica -- Exotica
It's just Erotica -- Hypnotica
It's just Psychotica -- Chaotica
It's just Exotica -- Neurotica

You just don't get it
Baby, don't you ask yourself why?
If you don't like the answer -- forget it
You know I hate to see you cry

Fortune is random -- Fate shoots from the hip
I know you get crazy, but try not to lose your grip
Life is a diamond you turn into dust
Looking for trust, and I know that you just don't get it
Well, you just don't get it

Neurotica -- Exotica
It's just Erotica -- Hypnotica
It's just Psychotica -- Chaotica
It's just Exotica -- Neurotica

SNAP!
Hide in your shell, let the world go to hell
It's like Russian roulette to you
SNAP!
Sweat running cold, you can't face growing old
It's a personal threat to you
SNAP!
The world is a cage for your impotent rage
But don't let it get to you
SNAP!

(awesome Guitar solo)

It's just Neurotica -- Exotica
It's just Erotica -- Hypnotica
It's just Psychotica -- Chaotica
It's just Exotica -- Neurotica

It's just Psychotica -- Neurotica
It's just Erotica -- Neurotica"
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henry quirk wrote:Allow me. SOB, to state the obvious for a change.

This, kill or be killed, is reality for ALL life.

It always has been...it always will be.

There is no insulating yourself from it.

You can pretend otherwise if you like, but, you're up to your neck in the same shit as the rest of us.

'nuff said.
Now let me state the obvious, "You're psychotic!"
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"...if you think LEA can't track you..."

Libraries...anonymous use of public internet machines.

No I.D. required.

Also: I haven't admitted to a violent crime in this place (admitting to a capability is not the same as 'doing').

So: I ain't worried.

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"You're psychotic!"

Wholly possible.
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"You're obviously a throwback to the Stone Age."

Probably.
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henry quirk wrote:"...if you think LEA can't track you..."

Libraries...anonymous use of public internet machines.

No I.D. required.

Also: I haven't admitted to a violent crime in this place (admitting to a capability is not the same as 'doing').

So: I ain't worried.

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"You're psychotic!"

Wholly possible.
Libraries??? That's stupid as well!! And I could explain why, but If you're truly guilty, I can't wait for them to bust you.

Lets see, you admitted to not paying taxes, insinuated that you've murdered people, and buried the bodies in the woods, yea, that's enough for them track you down and bust your ass. Ever stop to think of the possibly that this site is complicit in such an endeavor, a trap, to lure those out with lax moderation rules, and a false sense of security; over confidence, the usual flaw contributing to most's downfall.
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I've 'insinuated' nuthin'...again: an admission of capability is not an admission of guilt.

Evading the tax man, while criminal, is not a violent crime.

Libraries that require no identification (and have no video cameras) are just fine... ;)

This forum: pretty sure no one gives a fuck.
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henry quirk wrote:I've 'insinuated' nuthin'...again: an admission of capability is not an admission of guilt.

Evading the tax man, while criminal, is not a violent crime.

Libraries that require no identification (and have no video cameras) are just fine... ;)

This forum: pretty sure no one gives a fuck.
There you go, over confidence! Your insinuations can be added to factual data, how simple is that?
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"factual data"

Find some.
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henry quirk wrote:"factual data"

Find some.
Lets say there were a string of missing people in your area, suspected unsolved murders. While you've just hinted at murdering people, hiding their bodies in the woods, and blatantly admitting to federal tax evasion, and this catches the attention of the moderators of a internationally syndicated/publicized magazines official forum. Where the owner/operator has ties to Interpol, possibly due to prior site hacking, other forum users that actually threatened peoples lives, family ties, or just as an upstanding concerned citizen. So he drops copies of your threads of admissions and the IP's used by your account to logon, in the mail to his contact. Whereby in the course of trade agreements, between countries, including stipulations as to terrorism, and other such heinous crime reporting, the information is routinely exchanged with the FBI for info of the same sort affecting the UK. You know how the the crown and uncle Sam are such good buddies, most of the time. Such that some FBI computer cross-references, suspected tax evaders with unsolved disappearances, and locals of people that access this forum from IP's allocated to a specific library, and sure enough, it's narrowed down to your library in your neck of the woods, now they just lie and wait at the library, until that shifty throwback to the ice age logs on to the forum in the UK, while the FBI says got him, and you're cuffed on suspected murder and tax evasion charges, then you're grilled, being held for a minimum of 24 hours, forced out of your cave like element. But the real question is do you cave in? Matters not as you are now suspected of murder, while definitely being charged with tax evasion, as that proof can easily be obtained, added to your confession on electronic media.

There is no real anonymity on the internet, it's just an illusion, Hollywood has it all wrong, either as a misinformation campaign for just such cases, or so as to build suspense for gripping story lines, it really doesn't matter as even the most secure method of anonymity, a very famous onion router, was in fact infiltrated by the FBI, recently! Make no mistake, any criminal that overtly confesses to heinous or other crimes on the internet, is ignorant to say the least, flirting with getting caught! In fact it can be done, the real question is will it? A very thin and foolish gamble, indeed!
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