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You dumb shit, what do you specifically object to?

You dumb shit, I object to Williams's false claims and I object to your defence of them by pretending that they don't exist, that you haven't seen them, and that I haven't posted them.

mickthinks wrote:You dumb shit, I object to Williams's false claims and I object to your defence of them by pretending that they don't exist, that you haven't seen them, and that I haven't posted them.

You disagreed with Williams' contention that the 20th century is mankind's most barbaric. Following is what he said. What is it, exactly, that you disagree with???

"The 20th century turned out to be mankind's most barbaric. Roughly 50 million to 60 million people died in international and civil wars. As tragic as that number is, it pales in comparison with the number of people who were killed at the hands of their own government. Recently deceased Rudolph J. Rummel, professor of political science at the University of Hawaii and author of "Death by Government," estimated that since the beginning of the 20th century, governments have killed 170 million of their own citizens. Top government killers were the Soviet Union, which, between 1917 and 1987, killed 62 million of its own citizens, and the People's Republic of China, which, between 1949 and 1987, was responsible for the deaths of 35 million to 40 million of its citizens. In a distant third place were the Nazis, who murdered about 16 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others deemed misfits, such as homosexuals and the mentally ill."

bobevenson wrote:

mickthinks wrote:You dumb shit, I object to Williams's false claims and I object to your defence of them by pretending that they don't exist, that you haven't seen them, and that I haven't posted them.

You disagreed with Williams' contention that the 20th century is mankind's most barbaric. Following is what he said. What is it, exactly, that you disagree with???

"The 20th century turned out to be mankind's most barbaric. Roughly 50 million to 60 million people died in international and civil wars. As tragic as that number is, it pales in comparison with the number of people who were killed at the hands of their own government. Recently deceased Rudolph J. Rummel, professor of political science at the University of Hawaii and author of "Death by Government," estimated that since the beginning of the 20th century, governments have killed 170 million of their own citizens. Top government killers were the Soviet Union, which, between 1917 and 1987, killed 62 million of its own citizens, and the People's Republic of China, which, between 1949 and 1987, was responsible for the deaths of 35 million to 40 million of its citizens. In a distant third place were the Nazis, who murdered about 16 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others deemed misfits, such as homosexuals and the mentally ill."

They forgot gypsies. People always seem to forget about them. They aren't even included in the definition of Holocaust.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

mickthinks wrote:You dumb shit, I object to Williams's false claims and I object to your defence of them by pretending that they don't exist, that you haven't seen them, and that I haven't posted them.

You disagreed with Williams' contention that the 20th century is mankind's most barbaric. Following is what he said. What is it, exactly, that you disagree with???

"The 20th century turned out to be mankind's most barbaric. Roughly 50 million to 60 million people died in international and civil wars. As tragic as that number is, it pales in comparison with the number of people who were killed at the hands of their own government. Recently deceased Rudolph J. Rummel, professor of political science at the University of Hawaii and author of "Death by Government," estimated that since the beginning of the 20th century, governments have killed 170 million of their own citizens. Top government killers were the Soviet Union, which, between 1917 and 1987, killed 62 million of its own citizens, and the People's Republic of China, which, between 1949 and 1987, was responsible for the deaths of 35 million to 40 million of its citizens. In a distant third place were the Nazis, who murdered about 16 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others deemed misfits, such as homosexuals and the mentally ill."

They forgot gypsies. People always seem to forget about them. They aren't even included in the definition of Holocaust.

They come under the category of misfits, somewhat below homosexuals and the mentally ill.

bobevenson wrote: They come under the category of misfits, somewhat below homosexuals and the mentally ill.

That's just offensive. Mengele had a particular 'liking' for gypsy children, using them for his 'experiments' i.e. torture.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote: They come under the category of misfits, somewhat below homosexuals and the mentally ill.

That's just offensive. Mengele had a particular 'liking' for gypsy children, using them for his 'experiments' i.e. torture.

Forgive my somewhat warped sense of humor.

Did you know the term Gypsies came from the Middle East, Gypsies were often from Persian stock and from the Mogul Empire also, and looked quite swarthy so the Greeks confused them with Egyptians, hence the term Gypsies. Eventually the nomadic tribes who had originated in Persia moved to Rome, where they adopted the name Romani Gypsies.

Bob the Germans exterminating gypsy's is not that funny, as a race there life expectancy was almost zero, I am not sure we should make jokes about it...

I am from the swarthy Romany Gypsie stock myself, I do not think that there is anything wrong with being from Iran, Persian or a Gypsy hence.

They come under the category of misfits, somewhat below homosexuals and the mentally ill.

So you compare an entire race to homosexuals and the mentally ill, nice bob.

Sorry, Gypsy.

Bob no offence but have you ever thought about making some sort of sense at any point?

Hehe you are making me laugh though.

Blaggard wrote:Have you ever thought about making some sort of sense at any point?

Obviously, Walter Williams made more than enough sense for you to swallow.

Bob I ask in all conscience did your mum swallow?

Do you mind being called a limey?

Did your mum bob?

@Bob, there is no such thing as this mythical 'liberal' you keep referring to. The Govt. now has far too much power to spy and pry. With the advent of the internet the general public is far more at risk than ever before in regard to privacy and personal information etc. Information is power. People take their freedom for granted, and it can be taken away at the drop of a hat. This is why you need to stop throwing the word around without really knowing what it means. I couldn't give a flying fuck if I'm not allowed to own an assaut rifle. I do give a flying fuck if my emails, bank accounts etc. are being spied on.