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HexHammer wrote: Seems like u'r usual nonsens to me.

Thankyou for noticing, just trying to be helpful.

thedoc wrote:

HexHammer wrote: Seems like u'r usual nonsens to me.

Thankyou for noticing, just trying to be helpful.

If you really wanna be helpful, you could try venture to some other philosophy site and sphew your thoughts there.

HexHammer wrote:

thedoc wrote:

HexHammer wrote: Seems like u'r usual nonsens to me.

Thankyou for noticing, just trying to be helpful.

If you really wanna be helpful, you could try venture to some other philosophy site and sphew your thoughts there.

Too late, I already do, they don't like me either.

Andy Kay wrote:

Bernard wrote:Volition and awareness are inextricable Andy

H... Stars are unimaginably aware, and so is the earth. There is no rational way to apprehend such things though. And, no, It is not my 'believing' that allows such statements. It is experiential in ways I would need a lifetime to explain and still get only most of nowhere. Its enough to hopefully point out that life is incredible beyond belief and reason.

Okay, I'm just trying to get a handle on how you're using certain words here. So, in your lexicon, is there a difference between claiming that "Matter isn't the fundamental basis of the universe, awareness is" and claiming that "Matter isn't the fundamental basis of the universe, volition is"?

No, I haven't much of a problem with that, though you can say an engine has its own volition, which isn't the same as volition from awareness. So awareness is the most accurate term and I'll stick with that.

thedoc wrote:Too late, I already do, they don't like me either.

For what it's worth, thedoc, I like what you write. Although, I should qualify that by making it clear that I don't necessarily agree with it.

It always is regarded as madness whenever humans have to become less central, less important amid the scheme of things. Unlearning often begins with denial and rejection of what needs to be learnt because of the huge inconvenience of having life long assumptions and ideas challenged.

No its not madness. Madness is to regard the cosmos to be mostly devoid of life when in truth it overflows with living things. That we seek life according to our particular needs and requirements necessary for existence, and our intelligence as the benchmark, is a clue as to why we regard most of the cosmos as hostile to life.

uwot wrote:

thedoc wrote:Too late, I already do, they don't like me either.

For what it's worth, thedoc, I like what you write. Although, I should qualify that by making it clear that I don't necessarily agree with it.

Not a problem, I like what I write too, but I don't always agree with it either.

thedoc wrote:... I like what I write too, but I don't always agree with it either.

Brilliant!

where did the word ontology come from.it seems to encompass metaphtsics to a tee.

jackles wrote:where did the word ontology come from.it seems to encompass metaphtsics to a tee.

Perhaps this will help,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology

uwot wrote:

thedoc wrote:... I like what I write too, but I don't always agree with it either.

Brilliant!

Please enjoy, it's very rare.

thanks.

"Stars are unimaginably aware, and so is the earth. There is no rational way to apprehend such things though. And, no, It is not my 'believing' that allows such statements. It is experiential in ways I would need a lifetime to explain and still get only most of nowhere. Its enough to hopefully point out that life is incredible beyond belief and reason."

Because Hex. While your focus and fascination is laudable.
Stars and planets have no awareness. [the biosphere of earth may].

Such have no ..'life'

To be considered a thinking being. one must learn how to think [about a thing]
"beyond belief and reason" is not a good start

Hjarloprillar wrote: "Stars are unimaginably aware, and so is the earth. There is no rational way to apprehend such things though. And, no, It is not my 'believing' that allows such statements. It is experiential in ways I would need a lifetime to explain and still get only most of nowhere. Its enough to hopefully point out that life is incredible beyond belief and reason."

Because Hex. While your focus and fascination is laudable.
Stars and planets have no awareness. [the biosphere of earth may].

Such have no ..'life'

To be considered a thinking being. one must learn how to think [about a thing]
"beyond belief and reason" is not a good start

This is your usual incoherent random thinking, I get to wonder what kind of job one person such as you, have?

HexHammer wrote: I get to wonder what kind of job one person such as you, have?

i clean toilets