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Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:45 pm
by bobevenson
Yes, even though it will be a stone-age survival in the absence of free-market capitalism, but as Mick Jagger says, "You can't always get what you want."
Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:57 pm
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:When I want somebody to read something, I post it word-for-word. Other people post links. You don't even do that, you scum of the Earth!

Better scum of the earth than king of the godbothering loons!
Its a book boob, you want me to post the whole novel? Still, I understand that having to read something longer than a few paragraphs article may be beyond you.
Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:12 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:08 pm
by Skip
bobevenson wrote:
Yes, even though it will be a stone-age survival in the absence of free-market capitalism, but as Mick Jagger says, "You can't always get what you want."
A second chance to develop on a sustainable track, yes. Though it won't be necessary to go back to the stone age. If there are any human survivors of the X-event (economic collapse, blackout, superbug, superstorm, WWIII - whichever comes first), they will have a great deal of reference material in book form and at least some intact infrastructure. Possibly enough to learn what to avoid next time....
But i'm not very optimistic. Human gullibility and myopia are powerful forces.
Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:50 pm
by bobevenson
Skip wrote:Human gullibility and myopia are powerful forces.
Yes, indeed, that's why socialism has its adherents.
Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:17 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
bobevenson wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Not true, union workers that are not cutting the mustard, can be fired, as long as the proper protocols are adhered to. Most use write-ups, that total 3, as in 3 strikes and you're out. I know this because of GE, jet engine department foreman.
Why are you bringing up the GE plant in Evendale, which has nothing to do with any teacher's union?
A union is pretty much a union, I know of no union that attempts to force companies to accept individual workers that are a detriment to the companies welfare.
Re: ~ I believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor ~
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:09 pm
by bobevenson
SpheresOfBalance wrote:bobevenson wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Not true, union workers that are not cutting the mustard, can be fired, as long as the proper protocols are adhered to. Most use write-ups, that total 3, as in 3 strikes and you're out. I know this because of GE, jet engine department foreman.
Why are you bringing up the GE plant in Evendale, which has nothing to do with any teacher's union?
A union is pretty much a union, I know of no union that attempts to force companies to accept individual workers that are a detriment to the companies welfare.
Aren't you going to ask me how I know about the GE plant in Evendale? Anyway, a jet engine worker who can't cut it will definitely be fired, but teachers who can't cut it go on forever with tenure and union support.