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Walker wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:11 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:54 am
It does not require meditation

That's just your conjecture.

Pratyahara is a part of a meditation practice that disconnects consciousness from sensory stimuli, including thoughts. It happens spontaneously within the meditation practice. One cannot function dualistically in this state. One cannot walk, talk, eat, chew gum, or do anything else. One literally is doing nothing. This is not conjecture. There is no dualistic thought to distinguish one, as one.

The cessation of thought is the purpose of meditation.

The purpose is not to have a particular type of thinking, such as piety.

Fine, but one only needs to mediate on this just once, only once to watch the penny drop. Then once the penny drops, it's back to ordinary living.
A penny only drops once, unless it's a bouncing penny. Gravity ensures nothing ascends itself. High flyers, just be aware..beware of coming back down to earth with a bang.

Most people just don't care about their disconnected self, or are even remotely aware they have two selves. A non-self, and a self.
They just get on with living with their whole self.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:11 amThere is no dualistic thought to distinguish one, as one.

We're one but we are not the same…One love, one blood, one life…
One life with each other, fathers, sisters and my brothers, mothers and my lovers. One life but we're not the same.

U2

You two.

SNM: Self-realization is not an acquisition. It is more of the nature of understanding. Once arrived at, it cannot be lost. On the other hand, consciousness is changeful, flowing, undergoing transformation from moment to moment. Do not hold on to consciousness and its contents. Consciousness held, ceases. To try to perpetuate a flash of insight, or a burst of happiness is destructive of what it wants to preserve.