Philosophy Now Forum

promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:43 pm If they had, and instead of shooting up a few kibbutz and taking hostages, they rolled through with tanks and launched hundreds of missles, your prime minister would be bitchin about that and wishing they had just shot up a few kibbutz.

There is a lot of information and views circulating out there, naturally, and I found Ron Unz' view to be interesting and worthwhile. It does not change the *terrorism* picture necessarily, but does open it up to a more nuanced examination.

Unz writes: "Important articles have now begun appearing, drawing together all this scattered information, and indeed suggesting that many or most of the Israeli civilian deaths may have occurred at the hands of their own confused and trigger-happy military forces:"

A growing number of reports indicate Israeli forces responsible for Israeli civilian and military deaths
following October 7 attack[13]
Anonymous Contributor • MondoWeiss • October 22, 2023 • 1,300 Words

What Really Happened on 7th October?[14]
Robert Inlakesh • The Cradle • October 24, 2023 • 2,500 Words

October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles[15]
Max Blumenthal • The Grayzone • October 27, 2023 • 3,500 Words

Oh so this guy might be implying that israel smoked its own people to create a pretext for blaming hamas, invading gaza and annexing it? I'm guessing more or less becuz I didn't look into that link. But that's the logical MO for a theory like that.

Yeah by now I'm pretty much burned out on the whole thing and not as interested as i was a week ago. But u know me; I dimiss it all as more of the same of the consequences of religion and capitalism, and i pay very little attention to the big grand zionist conspiracies and all that shit.

But it is cute and kinda entertaining to watch everybody miss the mark entirely when they take a shot at explaining the causes of the conflict.

Wake me up when iran and syria and china and everybody gets going tho. I don't wanna miss that.

Actually Unz refutes that Israel intelligence or military allowed it to happen. The evidence points to a huge lapse in intelligence. Unless HaShem sends a miracle Netanyahu is toast. How could he survive this? He also points out that a large number of the Israeli dead were “smoked” by Israeli fire.

So the zionists aren't gonna destroy the world with all their miscegenation plots and i can relax now?

Just kidding. That wasn't ever gonna happen anyway becuz of china.

Two words: The General

U know how we can assume this whole thing is a sham?

In the end it would have cost israel less money to fortify the gaza border partition than it cost them to finance this invasion.

Build a wall that they can't jump over and you're good. And with that iron dome system you ain't gotta worry about missles.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:38 pm U know how we can assume this whole thing is a sham?

Hamas Spokesman: We Built Tunnels for Ourselves, not Palestinian Civilians
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2 ... civilians/

“A Hamas spokesman admitted to Russia Today that the terrorist group built tunnels underneath Gaza to protect its own members, not Palestinian civilians — whom he said it was not Hamas’s job to protect but rather that of Israel and the United Nations.”

That might even be a no-brainer, Walker, unless two million people can fit in a tunnel.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 am That might even be a no-brainer, Walker, unless two million people can fit in a tunnel.

Well, a lot of folks are ignoring the obvious. For example:

Here’s another no-brainer for your perusal.

Hamas Official: We Will Repeat the October 7 Atrocities Again and Again
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/11 ... n-n4923514

(Not very neighborly).

Don't worry. Gaza is going to get cleared out and become a nice Jewish community.

Worry and hope, worry and hope. Will there be bundt cake, with icing?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:06 am Worry and hope, worry and hope. Will there be bundt cake, with icing?

Are there any other groups of people you personally don't like, Walker (while we're on the topic of clearing out places)? Hopefully, I'm not included in that category. If I am, you'll have to kill me yourself. And I'd hate for you to get your hands all messy.

Are you working yourself up to another episode?

I just polished off the last of a bundt cake. Delicious. I didn't know they were so good. The icing is out of this world.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:02 am Are you working yourself up to another episode?

No. Just wondering how long you can keep up your proxy anger at Hamas before you get tired and move on to something else in the news.

Your concern is touching and I'm sure it centers around my welfare, seeing as how you're so self-centered.

You're free to go chase shiny objects. I'll keep an eye on history being made.

Be free Gary! Be free to chase shiny objects!



come on, that's funny.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:44 pm Oh so this guy might be implying that israel smoked its own people to create a pretext for blaming hamas, invading gaza and annexing it? I'm guessing more or less becuz I didn't look into that link. But that's the logical MO for a theory like that.

Yeah by now I'm pretty much burned out on the whole thing and not as interested as i was a week ago. But u know me; I dimiss it all as more of the same of the consequences of religion and capitalism, and i pay very little attention to the big grand zionist conspiracies and all that shit.

But it is cute and kinda entertaining to watch everybody miss the mark entirely when they take a shot at explaining the causes of the conflict.

What, EXACTLY, IS 'the mark' here "promethean75"?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:44 pm Wake me up when iran and syria and china and everybody gets going tho. I don't wanna miss that.