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Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:03 am
by Belinda
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:42 am
Belinda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:32 am DontAskMe wrote:
There is no mind,
But mind is the generic word for all thoughts and affects. It was mind that pertained to your comment about being dead, and all your other comments.It is mind that lets you to know how to post a message to the forum.
No thing is doing anything. No thing is saying there is a mind, no one is saying there is no mind.

This is the truth that the 'separate self' cannot bear to notice. The 'separate self' is a reflexive responsive unitary action of the senses to stimulus. It's nothing appearing to be something which is nothing.

Generic words are ''sound'' heard as words. Sound is the effect of two material surfaces rubbing together.

The brain is the biological computer. A computer is not conscious, there is only consciousness one without a second.

The brain has no author, or creator that you can call ''a you''.

If the brain is your brain, then try recreating one ( make one from scratch)
Okay, let's say there is no mind. Well, what is it that exists? DAM exists because she cares about cats, and slaughterhouses. DAM exists because she knows she will die and cease to exist. DAM exists because she knows others exist and suffer.

When I say "knows" you could reply as is your habit, "there is no thing that knows". True. By "knows" I really mean experience, so that DAM and I experience the fact of death and nothingness. And DAM and I experience the existence and suffering of others, because here we are.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:13 am
by Dontaskme
Earthquakes don’t know they kill people.

Stop pretending you know….you are not the knower, and stop pretending you speak to invisible non existent god.

If you claim to know you are alive, then what gives you the right to take away a life that is not yours.

Knowledge can only point to the illusion of nature, it has no mind to know intention.

The mind that knows intention is your own grown delusional belief….a mistake that is an unnatural function of reality.

Life fucks up sometimes, because it’s dumb and extraordinarily unintelligent….just like you dinosaur brain.

This post is for atto…who doesn’t read my posts.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 am
by Dontaskme
Belinda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:03 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:42 am
Belinda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:32 am DontAskMe wrote:



But mind is the generic word for all thoughts and affects. It was mind that pertained to your comment about being dead, and all your other comments.It is mind that lets you to know how to post a message to the forum.
No thing is doing anything. No thing is saying there is a mind, no one is saying there is no mind.

This is the truth that the 'separate self' cannot bear to notice. The 'separate self' is a reflexive responsive unitary action of the senses to stimulus. It's nothing appearing to be something which is nothing.

Generic words are ''sound'' heard as words. Sound is the effect of two material surfaces rubbing together.

The brain is the biological computer. A computer is not conscious, there is only consciousness one without a second.

The brain has no author, or creator that you can call ''a you''.

If the brain is your brain, then try recreating one ( make one from scratch)
Okay, let's say there is no mind. Well, what is it that exists? DAM exists because she cares about cats, and slaughterhouses. DAM exists because she knows she will die and cease to exist. DAM exists because she knows others exist and suffer.

When I say "knows" you could reply as is your habit, "there is no thing that knows". True. By "knows" I really mean experience, so that DAM and I experience the fact of death and nothingness. And DAM and I experience the existence and suffering of others, because here we are.
What’s the difference between knowing and experience…none, they arise simultaneously one with knowing.

It’s not a “someone” who experiences knowing…you are the knowing that cannot be known.

It’s all very simple.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:50 am
by Age
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:40 am
Age wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:10 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:02 pm
I didn't read much of it...as soon as I realised what it was saying...I read the first line, and that's it. . I got the gist, after reading the first line, and went no further.

So you are dead wrong, fool. I did not read it because I think it has no place on this thread.

This thread is not about the knowledge of suicide, please stop the condecending attitute. Take such knowledge to the PM option if you enjoy that sort of knowledge. Don't dump it on my thread ok...this is my thread and I will say how it is meant to go.
How is this thread "meant" 'to go'?
Well if you have anything to do with this thread, then it’s probably 210% max ..going to go terribly terribly WRONG !!

That I can guarantee.
Okay, but my question was, How is this thread MEANT to go?

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:51 am
by Age
henry quirk wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:17 pm euthanasia clinics

An awful idea. If Joe wants to off himself, he will. Makin' it easy for him is no favor.
WHY is making it easy, supposedly, no favor?

How do you KNOW what 'joe's" circumstances ARE, FULLY?

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:03 am
by Age
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:26 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:30 pm
The reality you hate just happens to be the reality I love. All the things you describe as evil are what I regard as realities greatest benefits.
Well good for fucking you. Congrats!

I have absolutely no problem that you love life. What do you want me to do throw you a fucking... HEY guys and gals, ISN'T LIFE SO WONDERFUL PARTY ?

And just so you kow...you are entitled to have your view that life has greatest benefits...just as I am entitled to have my view that life is evil...so fucking what!

I'm not the one saying to people ( you are a BAD PERSON ) just because I have a different view point.. NO... I'm a BAD PERSON for having my view aren't I ? ...go back through this whole thread, it's all written down...read the whole story about what has been said here.
There has been a deliberate attempt to inflame this thread with abusive comments about my views. And so what am I supposed to do, not react to them...dream on.
RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:30 pmI just do not understand why those who hate reality and their own existence so much continue to suffer unnecessarily when they do not have to. I do not believe them.
What or how other people choose to think about their life has nothing to do with you anyway, so save it, don't concern yourself too much.

What makes you think people who hate pain and suffering are suffering or hate their existence? I'm not suffering if that's what you believe.

I hate that pain and suffeiring is part of being alive, doesn't mean I am suffering, it's just something I have an opinion about. Personally, I wouldn't choose to be born, and that's my prerogative to have those thoughts, but that doesn't mean I am suffering just because I have those thoughts, which is just an opinion.
Would you choose to be born if you knew you would have a much better life than the one that you have had to endure so far?
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:26 pm Geeze, pull yourself together and stop thinking you know what people are really feeling, for ffs...you know absolute jack shit about me. Quit making projections about my character based on your own fears and phobias and self bias.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:08 am
by Age
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:09 am
Age wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:32 amWork that out, and then you WILL BE much closer to KNOWING what is ACTUALLY Right and ACTUALLY Wrong in Life.
Most human beings won't be able to work that out because most humans beings are selfish ignorant unintelligent bottom feeders that refuse to see the light, which is the universe is a gladiator war for every sentient and non-sentient form, from start to finish.
Is this WHY you were NOT able to work that out?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:09 am The religious freaks, have never being able to accept the truth of reality,
Does this mean, or imply, that you ACTUALLY do KNOW the 'truth of reality'?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:09 am so they indulge themselves in the pursuit of chasing pink balloons and rainbows, all their life, never-ever quite reaching beyond that horizon they constantly daydream about.
But they say "pink balloons and rainbows", or more correctly 'Heaven', is NOT found in life, but in the after-life?

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:21 am
by Age
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 am
Belinda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:03 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:42 am

No thing is doing anything. No thing is saying there is a mind, no one is saying there is no mind.

This is the truth that the 'separate self' cannot bear to notice. The 'separate self' is a reflexive responsive unitary action of the senses to stimulus. It's nothing appearing to be something which is nothing.

Generic words are ''sound'' heard as words. Sound is the effect of two material surfaces rubbing together.

The brain is the biological computer. A computer is not conscious, there is only consciousness one without a second.

The brain has no author, or creator that you can call ''a you''.

If the brain is your brain, then try recreating one ( make one from scratch)
Okay, let's say there is no mind. Well, what is it that exists? DAM exists because she cares about cats, and slaughterhouses. DAM exists because she knows she will die and cease to exist. DAM exists because she knows others exist and suffer.

When I say "knows" you could reply as is your habit, "there is no thing that knows". True. By "knows" I really mean experience, so that DAM and I experience the fact of death and nothingness. And DAM and I experience the existence and suffering of others, because here we are.
What’s the difference between knowing and experience…none, they arise simultaneously one with knowing.

It’s not a “someone” who experiences knowing…you are the knowing that cannot be known.
But if it is 'you', who are the 'knowing', this, as can be CLEARLY SEEN, that CAN be KNOWN.
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 am It’s all very simple.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:44 pm
by attofishpi
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:13 am Earthquakes don’t know they kill people.

Stop pretending you know….you are not the knower, and stop pretending you speak to invisible non existent god.

If you claim to know you are alive, then what gives you the right to take away a life that is not yours.

Knowledge can only point to the illusion of nature, it has no mind to know intention.

The mind that knows intention is your own grown delusional belief….a mistake that is an unnatural function of reality.

Life fucks up sometimes, because it’s dumb and extraordinarily unintelligent….just like you dinosaur brain.

This post is for atto…who doesn’t read my posts.
..well, certainly I must quote it in it's entirety..since u point out this is for atto.

I think this should be pertinent (btw am posting from mob. V difficult),..try.. attempt to understand, this 'God has the ability to take away pain, souls, etc...still while permitting US to perceive hardship.

It's a weird fact that when I have been thru hardship I have fought 4 my existence...whereas..once I have it easy and attempt to reflect on that hardship, I consider death.

So.

Please make an attempt to live...have a hobby, a passion, it must be in all of us, somewhere.



Agreed..perhaps like me enjoying bacon n eggs for breakfast

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 pm
by bahman
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:27 am “ A theologian is like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isn't there - and finding it! “ - unknown



“Since no one really knows anything about God, those who think they do are just troublemakers” Rabia Al-Basri



“Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did “


“ I don't see any god up here” Yuri Gagarin - first man in space, while in space.

“The invisible and the non- existent look very much alike”


“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires” Susan B. Anthony

Eskimo:"If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
Spiritual reality is real. Religions are made of Satan.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:03 pm
by attofishpi
bahman wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:27 am “ A theologian is like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isn't there - and finding it! “ - unknown



“Since no one really knows anything about God, those who think they do are just troublemakers” Rabia Al-Basri



“Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did “


“ I don't see any god up here” Yuri Gagarin - first man in space, while in space.

“The invisible and the non- existent look very much alike”


“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires” Susan B. Anthony

Eskimo:"If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
Spiritual reality is real. Religions are made of Satan.
Shut up U fukin imbecile.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:05 pm
by bahman
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:03 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:27 am “ A theologian is like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isn't there - and finding it! “ - unknown



“Since no one really knows anything about God, those who think they do are just troublemakers” Rabia Al-Basri



“Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did “


“ I don't see any god up here” Yuri Gagarin - first man in space, while in space.

“The invisible and the non- existent look very much alike”


“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires” Susan B. Anthony

Eskimo:"If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
Spiritual reality is real. Religions are made of Satan.
Shut up U fukin imbecile.
So, the religions are made of God?

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:14 pm
by Lacewing
Dontaskme to Belinda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 am What’s the difference between knowing and experience…none, they arise simultaneously one with knowing.
Can there be experience without knowing?

Can there be knowing without experience?

What is "knowing"?

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:30 pm
by attofishpi
bahman wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:05 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:03 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 pm
Spiritual reality is real. Religions are made of Satan.
Shut up U fukin imbecile.
So, the religions are made of God?
Not sure if there is a "SIGAF" ---as in 'should i give a fuck' - in relation to this.

Trust me....this God has no adverary, IT is THAT c££t.

Re: Religion is Man- Made

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:34 pm
by bahman
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:30 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:05 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:03 pm

Shut up U fukin imbecile.
So, the religions are made of God?
Not sure if there is a "SIGAF" ---as in 'should i give a fuck' - in relation to this.

Trust me....this God has no adverary, IT is THAT c££t.
Cannot you speak plain English? What is c££t? What is adverary?