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commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:32 pm Thanks

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:37 pm

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Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:27 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:18 pm Just wondering if Trump will concede to a loss if he loses.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... de/616424/

I'm wonderin' the same thing about the houseplant named biden

I'm betting there's controversy either way.

If Trump wins, the Bidenettes will all scream that there wasn't enough mail-in voting counted into the mix, so the results are inauthentic and have to be disregarded. If Biden wins, it will be by mail-in voting, which will immediately open up reasonable suspicions of fraud. So what sense is there in capitulating to a fraudulent vote-count? That's not democracy, obviously, and as long as the votes can't be trusted, who's the real President?

The only way to real beat all that is to cancel mail-in voting, and make people show up with ID in hand to vote like voting should be done. But neither side is willing to do because of public fears of COVID, no matter how irrational those fears are in regard to voting.

So it's going to be a mess. I'm pretty certain of that.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:25 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:21 pm Remember that one time Trump supporters were concerned about injustices that were happening to minorities...

the injustices foisted up by smokin' joe and harris the 'ho?

zinnat13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:31 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:27 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm

I'm wonderin' the same thing about the houseplant named biden

I'm betting there's controversy either way.

If Trump wins, the Bidenettes will all scream that there wasn't enough mail-in voting counted into the mix, so the results are inauthentic and have to be disregarded. If Biden wins, it will be by mail-in voting, which will immediately open up reasonable suspicions of fraud. So what sense is there in capitulating to a fraudulent vote-count? That's not democracy, obviously, and as long as the votes can't be trusted, who's the real President?

The only way to real beat all that is to cancel mail-in voting, and make people show up with ID in hand to vote like voting should be done. But neither side is willing to do because of public fears of COVID, no matter how irrational those fears are in regard to voting.

So it's going to be a mess. I'm pretty certain of that.

My guess is that besides crying foul play, trump will refuse to leave the white House and his post, if he loses. I am not much aware of presidential power according to US laws but my fear is that he may impose emergency or invoke military to keep him as president. On the other hand, nothing dramatic will happen if Biden loses.

Remember what trump said before last election result- if Clinton wins, it would be because of cheating and i will not accept it. However, if I win, it would be fair and square. He is saying the same now.

With love,
Sanjay

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:20 am

zinnat13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:14 am Furthermore, if Biden loses, we will see some protests( mostly from non whites) around us wilth banners like - not my president. The same what happened last time but all will die down within some days and people will get on with their normal lives.

But, if Biden wins, trump will do everything possible not to leave white house. He has many options available.

He can go to supreme court to declare election null and void because of cheating.
He can militarily attack Iran on China for the reasons available to himin order to find and excuse to declare an emergency.
The reason for all that is that trump does not see him as an ordinary us citizen. He feels that it is his destiny to rule the us forever. He is very much inspired by people like Putin and xi jinping and envies them to see that how they imposed themselves on their countries for their lifetimes. He wants the same thing for him and for his children after him.

He can do all that even now but he is stll convinced that just the last time, the pollsters are getting wrong this time also. The day he realises that he is going to lose, we will see him in action. And, it will be a long choas. Sadly, odds are in favour of that.

With love,
Sanjay

How the heck and from what sound evidences did you make the above speculations? and given that you do not understand much about US politics and its laws.

We don't have evidence of how Trump will do because he has not lost the election yet.
However there are solid evidence of how the Democrats and the left will behave from their losing in the last election in 2016.
Note the terrible cognitive dissonance that followed their lost of the 2016 election with the Russian Gate, the indifference to doing any good for the people in co-operating in the House, and real violence from the left and Antifa. These are so evident.

I have not read of any precedents where past US presidents had done any power grab by illegals means after they have lost an election. Perhaps you are relying on evidence from other 3rd world countries. I don't believe it is possible for Trump to grab power given the political situations of the US.

It is also unfortunate you have been brainwashed by the anti-Trump media to be a zombie to hate Trump based on lies rather than objective evidences.
I was duped by the anti-republican medias the last time when Bush was president and I simply detest Bush merely based on the news I read and exposed to.

With Trump I have known quite a bit about him before he was president. Despite being boorish, egoistic, narcisistic and other negative he is not 'evil'.

Trump is a high performer and result-oriented leader.
Wait a minute!!! How many times has he declared bankruptcy?

As a non-US citizen you should do sufficient research to obtain objective knowledge rather than rely on fake news media.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:02 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:25 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:21 pm Remember that one time Trump supporters were concerned about injustices that were happening to minorities...

the injustices foisted up by smokin' joe and harris the 'ho?

Again with your lack of maturity, you cowardly little fuck!

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:16 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:20 am

zinnat13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:14 am Furthermore, if Biden loses, we will see some protests( mostly from non whites) around us wilth banners like - not my president. The same what happened last time but all will die down within some days and people will get on with their normal lives.

But, if Biden wins, trump will do everything possible not to leave white house. He has many options available.

He can go to supreme court to declare election null and void because of cheating.
He can militarily attack Iran on China for the reasons available to himin order to find and excuse to declare an emergency.
The reason for all that is that trump does not see him as an ordinary us citizen. He feels that it is his destiny to rule the us forever. He is very much inspired by people like Putin and xi jinping and envies them to see that how they imposed themselves on their countries for their lifetimes. He wants the same thing for him and for his children after him.

He can do all that even now but he is stll convinced that just the last time, the pollsters are getting wrong this time also. The day he realises that he is going to lose, we will see him in action. And, it will be a long choas. Sadly, odds are in favour of that.

With love,
Sanjay

How the heck and from what sound evidences did you make the above speculations? and given that you do not understand much about US politics and its laws.

We don't have evidence of how Trump will do because he has not lost the election yet.
However there are solid evidence of how the Democrats and the left will behave from their losing in the last election in 2016.
Note the terrible cognitive dissonance that followed their lost of the 2016 election with the Russian Gate, the indifference to doing any good for the people in co-operating in the House, and real violence from the left and Antifa. These are so evident.

I have not read of any precedents where past US presidents had done any power grab by illegals means after they have lost an election. Perhaps you are relying on evidence from other 3rd world countries. I don't believe it is possible for Trump to grab power given the political situations of the US.

It is also unfortunate you have been brainwashed by the anti-Trump media to be a zombie to hate Trump based on lies rather than objective evidences.
I was duped by the anti-republican medias the last time when Bush was president and I simply detest Bush merely based on the news I read and exposed to.

With Trump I have known quite a bit about him before he was president. Despite being boorish, egoistic, narcisistic and other negative he is not 'evil'.

Trump is a high performer and result-oriented leader.
Wait a minute!!! How many times has he declared bankruptcy?

As a non-US citizen you should do sufficient research to obtain objective knowledge rather than rely on fake news media.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:55 am Biden for president, the lessor of two 'potential' evils!
Which is how I've always voted, because I've been in contempt of human kind for quite some time now! With the exception of the scientific community and innocent children, (so far unscathed by idiotic, so called, adults), of course!