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“Of course, the purpose of American Marxism generally; the 1619 Project; the vilification of American’s founders, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution; teaching CRT and other racist ideologies; the toppling of historic monuments and statues; changing names of schools and military installations; etc., is to weaken if not destroy allegiance to our country and knowledge of its real history, especially with younger generations of Americans. Marx would be proud. And the Democrat Party supports it all.”

- The Democrat Party Hates America

promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:04 pm th-1388768539.jpg

That's very dramatic.

I was thinking the same thing, and just had to move forward from that thought into objective relevance as determined by the situation, i.e, thread title.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:23 pm Because your position is so grounded in an established narrative ... (trimmed off the rest of the fat).

My position is grounded in the demonstrable fact that the intent of Hamas and every other Jew hating organization is to kill the Jews.

A narrative has been been created by Evil to support the facet of Reality that the above sentence states.

You should deal with that, rather than all those leaves. Yessir.

In this way, events of the present dovetail with the truth of how events have unfolded, which is largely due to the fact The Democrats Hate America and elected an idiot for president, who has been wrong on every foreign policy issue in the history of his long, deep state career, and who appears determined to not break that continuity of incompetence, that is, the Peter Principle elevated to its logical conclusion ... world chaos, death, destruction, corruption, hatred, etc.

Look to the root, Luke. The leaves die and change next season, the root of Democrat Hatred of America lives on.

I call you young Luke, because your cup is full of all that you know, at the expense of what's happening in the world.

"That's very dramatic."

On the contrary, that's the most well deserved face palm in this history of western philosophy. No other thinker has ever been as abused, misunderstood, and wrongfully attributed to atrocities commited in their name, as big K.

Something to pay attention to [here I address the multitude of readers, hundreds if not thousands, who carefully read what I write ] an interesting dynamic here: Walker will not and cannot listen to any point that I make, and can only continue with his points that have a cartoonesque lack of dimension.

What seems to happen is that the more dimensionality that one can entertain -- here I speak only for myself -- the harder it is to take any specific side.

But here, and again for the sake of expanding the dimension of our thoughts about and our consideration of this immense issue, with so many levels of import and problematic relevance, I submit this interesting piece by Noam Chomsky.

What interests me is to contrast Chomsky's view -- a powerful and also a coherent Left-ideological position, indeed even revolutionary, which demonstrates how capable it is of influencing the *idealistic young* -- with the expressed view of Jonathan Bowden.

It is a strange issue to meditate over and, of course, to decide on which side one chooses for one's own complicit allegiance.

America is a colonizer/settler nation as Chomsky states. Obviously this is standard Left-Progressive material and great emphasis is placed on the crimes of America that are deeply tied up with its existence. And he compares Israel's colonizing and settler movement with that of our own colonizing and settling nations: the US, Canada, NZ, Australia: all off-shoots (and continuations, extensions) of English imperialism.

So once you go down that road -- the road of recognizing guilt, blame and complicity -- you undermine your own existence at the most basic level.

Curiously, the ideology or the *moral manoeuvre* that Bowden offers is to deconstruct and dismantle what he calls 'the grammar of self-intolerance'. It is an ideological platform of interpretation, obviously grounded in a Marxian analysis, but also one that could well be Christian, with which the individual undermines his own being, his accomplishment, his power.

Now, I could and any one of us could take the Straussian/Machiavellian Jewish-Zionist position that the only thing that really matters is a people and its existence, and that a cultural or religious mythology is really only something for the consumption of the masses who must have such in order to validate themselves (or not to invalidate themselves, which is deadly), and I could say that no matter what, and even against all moral opposition, Am Chai Yisrael. And I could, if I were to get really sober and cynical in that Machiavellian sense, conclude and decide that the troublesome population of Palestine, now again Israel, needs to be eliminated.

I submit a video that points to something few are considering: Gaza is one thing, but it is the West Bank that is actually the thing to be fought over.

What if I abandon all the false pretenses of a type of moralism and decide that the only thing that really matters is the power-dynamic and what power attains and maintains for itself? I might then agree to support the Jews and Israelis in their *project* and not to care if tens of thousands, millions, are wiped out. It certainly is not the first time even in recent history that millions have died. Who cares?

Here is a short video tracing the grief of an Israeli woman who lost her husband in the recent attack. I will bet anything that all the people who participate on this forum have much more in common with her, and lives and backgrounds that are more commensurate, than with most Palestinian Arabs.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:50 pm Something to pay attention to [here I address the multitude of readers, hundreds if not thousands, who carefully read what I write ] an interesting dynamic here: Walker will not and cannot listen to any point that I make, and can only continue with his points that have a cartoonesque lack of dimension.

Let's say you're less than fascinating, that is, you write too much.

Try making A point.

Here’s something that popped up for the fact-checkers, by way of Diogenes Middle Finger:

On Israel and ‘Root Causes’
Jon Gabriel, Ed.
October 28, 2023
https://ricochet.com/1507912/on-israel-and-root-causes/

According to today’s Hamasophiles, Gaza’s leadership is justified in their terror attacks against Israel because “Zionists stole their land.” Before that, the British “stole their land,” which they seem to forget.

Of course, the Brits stole the land from the Ottoman Empire in the first world war. Well, kind of. The sultan decided the region wasn’t populated enough, so he imported Arab Muslims from other regions, such as Yemen and Syria, creating many of today’s “Palestinians.” In other words, Gaza’s ancestors stole it from the Arabs, Jews, and Christians who already lived in the region.

The Ottomans stole it from the Egyptian Mamluks, who inherited it from Egypt’s Ayyubids, who had stolen it from Frankish Crusaders. Those short-lived Christian rulers had stolen it from Fatimid Caliphate, which was preceded by several other caliphates. Which had stolen it from the Byzantine/Roman Empire.

Before that, Rome stole it from the Jews, who stole it from the Greeks, who stole it from the Jews, who were given it by the Neo-Babylonians, who had stolen it from the Assyrians, who had stolen it from the Jews.

People who rely on root causes always stop the historiography the second they discover a group they don’t like. Funny how that works.

Migrant caravan headed north swells by a THOUSAND people in 24 hours to 7,000 people as Chinese influencers are showing migrants how to cross US southern border
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... inese.html

Suggestion: print some money and use it to give all these folks matching uniforms right now, while they are trudging across mile after mile of Mexico where they might get chilly, then deploy the US army to the southern border and block their entrance. This way Biden might avoid the impeachable offense of ignoring laws designed to protect the border in an orderly fashion, for the benefit of humanity.

And, the fact that the invaders are wearing the uniforms of an organized and unifed invasion force during a time when the FBI director has warned of an imminent threat to the security of the country (to cover his ass), will make it better for the cameras, boost the president's polls, and make everyone forget of what Evil has already illegally entered to do what it came to do.

While the army is blocking the border, the Corps of Engineers can build a wall behind them, pronto. You wouldn’t believe how fast they could build a wall to meet the President’s Constitutional Duty.

Just a suggestion. It won't happen. The Democrat Party That Hates America is dug in too deep, like the web-like matrix of a tumour.

At this point, given the condition of the government in the US, about all we can do is think, fast, and wait* (for the inevitability to play out.)


*Sidshartha

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:12 am Here’s something that popped up for the fact-checkers, by way of Diogenes Middle Finger:

On Israel and ‘Root Causes’
Jon Gabriel, Ed.
October 28, 2023
https://ricochet.com/1507912/on-israel-and-root-causes/

According to today’s Hamasophiles, Gaza’s leadership is justified in their terror attacks against Israel because “Zionists stole their land.” Before that, the British “stole their land,” which they seem to forget.

Of course, the Brits stole the land from the Ottoman Empire in the first world war. Well, kind of. The sultan decided the region wasn’t populated enough, so he imported Arab Muslims from other regions, such as Yemen and Syria, creating many of today’s “Palestinians.” In other words, Gaza’s ancestors stole it from the Arabs, Jews, and Christians who already lived in the region.

The Ottomans stole it from the Egyptian Mamluks, who inherited it from Egypt’s Ayyubids, who had stolen it from Frankish Crusaders. Those short-lived Christian rulers had stolen it from Fatimid Caliphate, which was preceded by several other caliphates. Which had stolen it from the Byzantine/Roman Empire.

Before that, Rome stole it from the Jews, who stole it from the Greeks, who stole it from the Jews, who were given it by the Neo-Babylonians, who had stolen it from the Assyrians, who had stolen it from the Jews.

People who rely on root causes always stop the historiography the second they discover a group they don’t like. Funny how that works.

This must be "God" singing the final verse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:12 amOn Israel and ‘Root Causes’ Jon Gabriel, Ed. October 28, 2023

Jon Gabriel is wrong. But he's far right so Walker laps it up.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:54 pm Migrant caravan headed north swells by a THOUSAND people in 24 hours to 7,000 people as Chinese influencers are showing migrants how to cross US southern border

So the number of people who want to migrate to the US can be counted in thousands. lol Who knew?!1!

So some of the people working to play on Walker's fear of foreigners are Chinese. lol Go figure!!11!

Walker is his own nightmare.

I don't have nightmares.

However, this here fellow is a Robot's worse nightmare.
The Robot is trying to pass itself off as organic intelligence.

This Democrat AI Robot tests the credulity of a Republican Turing Tester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf2Uh6yuhPU

AI will not be moved. AI will follow its prime directive and assert the programmed narrative. The aggressive Turing Test in the link illustrates not only AI’s ineffective human mimicry, but AI's limitations in trying to haywire truth.

The physical movements and features of the robot housing the AI are almost convincing.

Not only is Walker plagued by his nightmares. He wants to pass them on to everyone else. It’s an illness.

- One more try, with AI.

- The kind and gentle, plain-speaking Republican senator from Louisiana senses the artifice of the Robot, and asks the Democrat Robot easy questions, but that approach bounces like snowflakes off the AI shield. When it cannot communicate at the level of human reasoning, AI stonewalls with programmed noise, volume, and simulated indignation. No doubt AI has other tactics in its bag of tricks calculated to manipulate humans.

'Did You Just Parachute In From Another Planet?': John Kennedy Hammers Mayorkas Over Border
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_6_iASfoD4