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henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:01 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:00 pm These people benefitting from thought-free blisfulness sure seem to be pissy, resentful and insecure.

Yep.

Projection…which is the delusion Roy speaks about…all false projections..

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:00 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:58 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:53 pm

I'm right here, DAM.

That’s a thought…not you.

No, DAM, it's me, flesh, blood, bone, and mind, a person, a free will, tellin' you I am.

Which is thought.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:49 pm
Because that’s just what’s happening….flowing in the freedom of every new moment. It’s the pointless point of life.

It’s a game of hide and seek with itself, it splits in two, just to want to come together again… to find itself, is to end the game.

The end of knowledge…until you decide you want to play the game again…if you know all the cheat codes to the game, the game would be boring. You wouldn’t want to play it again…that’s why it will always be as if you are playing the game for the very first time. Which you are.

I honestly don't get what value you find in this way of thinking. I'm not even sure it is a way of thinking; it just seems like a total mess to me. I suppose it's a matter of what kind of mind you have. My mind just doesn't speak the same language as yours, it seems.

Dontaskme, you have reached a relativism that is more likely to a nihilism...

You cannot describe what the TAO is, but then, what is the point of knowing that you cannot understand yourself?

You are missing the important part, that is create a whole theory starting from that, a theory that concludes a lot of things of how we must act in ours lives and with others, on economics, on politics, and science.

You are just saying "TAO is never know" and that is all

If you follow that false gurus like roy, that is what happens. You become a man who doesnt do anything and is alone.

PD: I believe I am that TAO. So, just think... I am saying to you the same that others are saying to you and at the same time I believe the same as you... just think about it...

bobmax wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:13 am

CHNOPS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:49 am Knowledge is just having x behaviours in your mind and body. If you learn how to pay more attention, you first learn that generating a thought but then that behaviours change the behaviours of your mind and you pay more attention...

Is just that you dont have a knowledge of what Good and Evil is, or is too cheaper, and so you dont know how to improve yourselft to be better.

If you have that, that is really enough yes.

The knowledge of Good and Evil is therefore the keystone so that it is enough to learn.

However, the knowledge of Good and Evil is a behavior, like any other knowledge.

What to do then to encourage this indispensable behavior?

If the knowledge of Good and Evil is lacking or insufficient, then I do not think our encouragement to learn is enough.
Because it is necessary to induce to eat the forbidden fruit, that is, it is necessary to be the serpent.

The snake who loves you and wants you to start your behavior which consists in the knowledge of Good and Evil.

The religion has said "Dont know about Good and Evil, just do what we say you has to do"

And that is why the world is suffering.

I understand when you ask yourself why you even bother to do this Roy.

It’s just so hard to get people to understand/ know/ get this.

Oh well, I’ll keep going… I suppose

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:08 pmProjection…which is the delusion Roy speaks about…all false projections..

No, DAM, we're not projectin'. We're makin' observations.

Which is thought.

No, DAM. It's me, thinkin' and typin'.

CHNOPS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:10 pm

If you follow that false gurus like roy, that is what happens. You become a man who doesnt do anything and is alone.

Clueless- way off- pointless- and totally and absolutely absurd thing to say..

In other words you have got this so WRONG it’s hard to know whether to laugh or cry…at such a ridiculous pathetic comment.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:21 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:08 pmProjection…which is the delusion Roy speaks about…all false projections..

No, DAM, we're not projectin'. We're makin' observations.

Which is thought.

No, DAM. It's me, thinkin' and typin'.

Nope. Me is a thought known, and that which is knows knows nothing, so this me is nothing but illusion.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:57 pm Please just shut the fuck up, you have no idea what I know to understand. Or how I think, or how and why I choose to live my life the way I do.

You are trying to analyse everything you think you know about me when you know absolutely nothing about me or what’s in my mind and why…whatsoever.

I'm not going to shut up. I see that it's alright for you to talk about me and what I understand but not the other way around. I did tell you you didn't know about me, but I didn't tell you to shut up. And just who are you telling to shut up, non-dualist?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:21 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:08 pmProjection…which is the delusion Roy speaks about…all false projections..

No, DAM, we're not projectin'. We're makin' observations.

Which is thought.

No, DAM. It's me, thinkin' and typin'.

Making an observation is projection.

It is known, and that which is known knows nothing, the known is an illusion.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:05 pm Using the words …forced to be alone for not having my longing fulfilled…is way off the mark of …you are absolutely clueless….and I’m afraid that’s where you and I will part company now…I’m simply done with you.

I've heard this before. And how can anything part company, non-dualist?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:23 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:57 pm Please just shut the fuck up, you have no idea what I know to understand. Or how I think, or how and why I choose to live my life the way I do.

You are trying to analyse everything you think you know about me when you know absolutely nothing about me or what’s in my mind and why…whatsoever.

I'm not going to shut up. I see that it's alright for you to talk about me and what I understand but not the other way around. I did tell you you didn't know about me, but I didn't tell you to shut up. And just who are you telling to shut up, non-dualist?

Please shut up, you tell me I do not understand nonduality…and that’s wrong, so I’m done with you saying things about me you cannot possibly know. Shut up.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:25 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:05 pm Using the words …forced to be alone for not having my longing fulfilled…is way off the mark of …you are absolutely clueless….and I’m afraid that’s where you and I will part company now…I’m simply done with you.

I've heard this before. And how can anything part company, non-dualist?

You are clueless. There is no such thing as a nondualist.

Keep trying, keep poking. You’ll not touch it with your finger, sorry but you won’t.