Sex and the Religious-Left

[Alexis Jacobi]

As far as Harbal, I think he's got a good nose. I like him.

I find him … entertaining.

Can’t speak for his nose.

[Wizard22]

What irony that the Religious-Left want to impose Shame and Guilt against you, Alexis, for Ad Hom attacks...when that's literally all they do on this forum: Dpants, Scalpy, Hairball, etc.

I used to think there were limits to Hypocrisy...

[Walker]

OP

- The factual changes you note are quite apparent. They're overt, and covert. They are in degrees of obviousness.
- What folks base their ad homs on, is a disagreement over the implications, which are an ancillary topic to the observable reality. However, the evidence is there in mass media and entertainment.
- The question I see, is life reflecting art, or is art reflecting life. Or, is art shaping reality through sophisticated, subliminal conditioning of perceptions, perceptions that for many don't extend very far past the TV and tabloid news sites on the web?

This 30 second TV commercial is brilliant. It's endearing, and it persists.
It achieves the goals of advertising, and fits within the FSK of the OP, although mildly *.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbhCFM2K9ms

* Stepping outside the social engineering angle and into capitalism ...

Generous interpretation:
In a dollars and cents motivated effort to broaden their base, the advertiser paid for a setting and characters that are obviously one step removed from the stereotypical, liberal, white-girl college-girl lesbian phase of identity curiosity and exploration. It’s the post college bohemian stage for most non-STEM graduates, but that’s the fragmented life of many of today’s yutes who have money to spend, and there are quite a few of them scraping by for their necessities of electronic communication.

[Wizard22]

Or, is art shaping reality through sophisticated, subliminal conditioning of perceptions, perceptions that for many don't extend very far past the TV and tabloid news sites on the web?

I lean toward Indoctrination. In the 1950s and 60s, Western products and consumer goods were primarily marketed upon the premise of the product alone, meaning, that Ad men wanted to sell you a refrigerator that was better than other refrigerators. However, Ad men quickly realized that they were not only selling a product, but an "Image". This "Image" became the ideal 1950s Middle Class Caricature that appeals to the Make America Great Again! political movement—which is an appeal for Westerners to 'return' to that post-war victorious, positive, hopeful feeling.

That "Image" has changed, shifted, and warped significantly since then, into....

This 30 second TV commercial is brilliant. It's endearing, and it persists.
It achieves the goals of advertising, and fits within the FSK of the OP, although mildly *.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbhCFM2K9ms

* Stepping outside the social engineering angle and into capitalism ...

Generous interpretation:
In a dollars and cents motivated effort to broaden their base, the advertiser paid for a setting and characters that are obviously one step removed from the stereotypical, liberal, white-girl college-girl lesbian phase of identity curiosity and exploration. It’s the post college bohemian stage for most non-STEM graduates, but that’s the fragmented life of many of today’s yutes who have money to spend, and there are quite a few of them scraping by for their necessities of electronic communication.

....into this, clip you provided, and more.

I believe that it is no longer about the products or services offered, but mostly about the Indoctrination, Propaganda, and Cultural Marxism perpetrated through these Commercial advertisements and coded messages, to the masses. It is indeed, intentionally subliminal, so that the Religious-Left, like those hooked on these messages (Dpants, Scalpy, Hairball, Etc.) "think nothing of them". They don't see the intent of the subliminal messages, aimed at the Western audience's subconsciousness.

[Walker]

How ironic. The tribalist accusing others of "selfishness."

- Are you really in the position to turn your nose up at other viewpoints?
- If so, you're not all the things you say you are.
- You're just ... haughty.
- That's a characteristic stereotypically associated with Brits, at least in olden times.

Whoops! DOn't let your haughty prejudice show.
It's not like you are not the queen of turning your own nose up at other people!

No, you're haughty!

The proof:

- You turn your nose up to everything that doesn't come out of you.

- However, I who am far more objective, have not turned up my nose at the OP.
- I have read and understood. I have said to myself, how can this OP be true?
- I have even civilly offered an alternative explanation of capitalism as an alternative strategy other than social engineering that uses propaganda as a tactic. Capitalism also uses propaganda as tactic.

- Yessir. I do think that works.

[Walker]

I believe that it is no longer about the products or services offered, but mostly about the Indoctrination, Propaganda, and Cultural Marxism perpetrated through these Commercial advertisements and coded messages, to the masses. It is indeed, intentionally subliminal, so that the Religious-Left, like those hooked on these messages (Dpants, Scalpy, Hairball, Etc.) "think nothing of them". They don't see the intent of the subliminal messages, aimed at the Western audience's subconsciousness.

- Then the marketing of the products and services could only succeed because they are affirmations of very early indoctrination.
- That explains the ostensible nature of the government helping hand, as in, free pre-K through 12. And now, thanks to loan forgiveness, free under-graduate and post-graduate.

- It also explains why all this crap is coming to a head at this time in the history of the world. It's the evolution, the ripening of causes that have proceeded to react as an inevitable effect.

[Wizard22]

- Then the marketing of the products and services could only succeed because they are affirmations of very early indoctrination.
- That explains the ostensible nature of the government helping hand, as in, free pre-K through 12. And now, thanks to loan forgiveness, free under-graduate and post-graduate.

- It also explains why all this crap is coming to a head at this time in the history of the world. It's the evolution, the ripening of causes that have proceeded to react as an inevitable effect.

That's correct; the Religious-Left know that their dwindling political power is entirely dependent on maintaining control of Propaganda and Indoctrination through Mass Media. This is why they fear Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter/X. This is why they fear Trump and MAGA-Republican-Conservatives. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it's about the Religious-Left's irrational fear of Nazi Germany and Hitler, that they fear the rise of a Fascist Dictator if Culture shifts back toward the Right, concerning control of Western Propaganda as a whole.

They fear losing the Meta-Narrative of Western Civilization.

And that's what the greater "Culture War" is about, the types of propaganda that are 'allowable' to be propagated. It's why Dpants-Scalpy-Hairball, and sometimes Iwan, are "on the same page" about what should or should not be promoted through mass media—which types of sexual imagery is 'tolerable'.


But some of us are old enough to remember the 1990s, when Evangelical Conservative-Right Americans still maintained hold and control of the Meta-Narrative. That was when CDs were still censored for cussing and curse words, and video games were censored of violence/gore. All that is gone, today. The censors were removed, and now, are imposed directly against the Political-Right.

The Religious-Left want to end Free Speech, against the Conservative Right in general.

[Sculptor]

Sex crimes predict LOW for these factors on a per capita basis...

Femala
Trans
Gay
Left Wing
Atheist
Democrats

So I am puzzled what this thread is about

LOL, clueless... of course Scalpy cannot see anything "wrong" with this.


Just like a pedo wouldn't see anything "wrong" with molesting a child as well:

I would not know about molesting child. How did you find it? Have you been arrested yet?

I'm a bit worried about you if you see this image as a threat. Where's the harm?
Men have dressed as women on the stage for thousands of years.
In the UK we have a tradition of doing that. No one is threatened; no one is harmed; and no one is "molested".
Get a fucking life.

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[Sculptor]

- Then the marketing of the products and services could only succeed because they are affirmations of very early indoctrination.
- That explains the ostensible nature of the government helping hand, as in, free pre-K through 12. And now, thanks to loan forgiveness, free under-graduate and post-graduate.

- It also explains why all this crap is coming to a head at this time in the history of the world. It's the evolution, the ripening of causes that have proceeded to react as an inevitable effect.

That's correct; the Religious-Left know that their dwindling political power is ....

... its' growing as even the most stupid dipshits figure out Trump is a criminal.

You teo should get a room.

[Alexis Jacobi]

It’s kind of odd really — I mean when you think about it:

One thrusts his perverse & detailed pictures of his phantasy of the sodomizing of children.

The other presents his masturbation fixation as something to explain and defend (resisting restraint and the philosophical-hygienic practice of abstinence and re-channeling).

While a third explains and defends transvestism and who can guess what else.

What is going on here?

[Gary Childress]

It’s kind of odd really — I mean when you think about it:

One thrusts his perverse & detailed pictures of his phantasy of the sodomizing of children.

The other presents his masturbation fixation as something to explain and defend (resisting restraint and the philosophical-hygienic practice of abstinence and re-channeling).

While a third explains and defends transvestism and who can guess what else.

What is going on here?

I still don't see masturbation as a serious issue. I mean, I don't do it very often. It's something that many, MANY people do on occasion. Are you suggesting that no one ever masturbate? Or is it something you just rather not talk about? If it's the latter, that's fine. I don't mention it very often. However, I'll try not to mention it anymore from here forward if it upsets you.

[Gary Childress]

One thrusts his perverse & detailed pictures of his phantasy of the sodomizing of children.

I believe the point being made is that trans people are probably no more likely to sodomize children than anyone else, perhaps even less likely statistically. I mean Catholic priests aren't setting a very good example on behalf of religion. Yet, it seems to be a continuous problem.

[Alexis Jacobi]

One thrusts his perverse & detailed pictures of his phantasy of the sodomizing of children.

I believe the point being made is that trans people are probably no more likely to sodomize children than anyone else, perhaps even less likely statistically. I mean Catholic priests aren't setting a very good example on behalf of religion. Yet, it seems to be a continuous problem.

I referred to Flash’s elaborate projected phantasy.

It is “statistically probable” that Flash reveals his own orientation.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Are you suggesting that no one ever masturbate?

We are talking about the general topic of sexual ethics and a movement toward extreme forms of sexual libertinism in contrast with a developed philosophy (Platonic, Christian) that defines why restraint is necessary and a higher, more ethical choice.

I refer to a sodomite, a masturbator, and a transvestite because it demonstrates a relationship to perversions-made-normal.

Gary, can you fucking READ??

[FlashDangerpants]

Are you suggesting that no one ever masturbate?

We are talking about the general topic of sexual ethics and a movement toward extreme forms of sexual libertinism in contrast with a developed philosophy (Platonic, Christian) that defines why restraint is necessary and a higher, more ethical choice.

I refer to a sodomite, a masturbator, and a transvestite because it demonstrates a relationship to perversions-made-normal.

Gary, can you fucking READ??

If you were an actual Christian you could base that claim of superiority on God's word, or some knowledge passed on by God, but you aren't an actual Christian. If you were a real Platonist, you could base that claim of superiority on an eternal realm available to the right sort of inquiry, but you aren't a Platonist. You are a pissant and you base that claim to superirority on nothing but your devout concern for your own inner mental states and how important you feel after reviewing those states. Which is just pathetic.