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Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:43 pm
by bobevenson
chaz wyman wrote:bobevenson wrote:chaz wyman wrote:
If it is already legal in the USA and the UK to draw pictures of the Prophet Mohammed, then what, pray tell, is the purpose of JAMit?
If you do not have the ability to threaten Muslims, what will be the purpose of this organisation?
You seem a little confused, as usual.
Let me explain it in very simple terms for your feeble mind to comprehend. JAMit draws an insulting picture of Mohammed or burns a Quran, which is entirely within the law. /quote]
Burning a Koran and making a public display of insulting images of Mohammed is to be cherished and promoted, and is ok
Threatening Salman Rushdie is not.
What kind of a moron are you?
Only a fucking creep would say what you just said unless I'm totally misinterpreting you. But of course you
do speak in riddles!
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:47 pm
by chaz wyman
Since you go on so much about democratic rights.
What about the rights of 2.5 million american muslims?
Where does JAMit stand on these issues?
Arson of a Mosque?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6814690.html
Good or bad?
Cultural Centre in NY. build or boycott?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democrac ... round_zero
Good or bad
Buring religous symbols?
good or bad?
Burning the US flag.
good or bad?
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:49 pm
by John
bobevenson wrote:John, I hope you're smarter than you sound. This is just an idea. But let me tell you something, it only takes one person burning the Quran, or the American flag for that matter, to create more news than a million dollars can buy. Hardly newsworthy you say? Come on, John, you're not that dumb.
I just did a quick search and watched a guy burning the Koran on Youtube. I don't recall any media coverage of the act at the time so I doubt every American who burns to Koran gets their own spot on Fox News. You burning the Koran isn't the same as a minister doing it.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:55 pm
by bobevenson
Unlike France, Muslims should be able to dress as they like and do whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with others. If somebody wants to draw an insulting picture of Jesus or Mohammed, or burn any flag of his choice, he has a right to do so. Now I grant you that burning an American flag in the U.S. is going to cause problems, but so what, the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that it is free speech. Unfortunately, you can't do this in Europe without going to jail or worse. Viva Amerika!
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:01 am
by bobevenson
John wrote:bobevenson wrote:John, I hope you're smarter than you sound. This is just an idea. But let me tell you something, it only takes one person burning the Quran, or the American flag for that matter, to create more news than a million dollars can buy. Hardly newsworthy you say? Come on, John, you're not that dumb.
I just did a quick search and watched a guy burning the Koran on Youtube. I don't recall any media coverage of the act at the time so I doubt every American who burns to Koran gets their own spot on Fox News. You burning the Koran isn't the same as a minister doing it.
You are totally wrong, John. It doesn't matter whether I burn the U.S. flag or the Quran, I'll be on Fox News, CNN and a million other programs. And if you get me enough money, I'll do it tomorrow, and you'll get to see me on TV, which is worth the price pf admission.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:09 am
by bobevenson
chaz wyman wrote:
Buring religous symbols?
good or bad?
Burning the US flag.
good or bad?
See, that's why you don't know anything. It's not a question of whether you think something is good or bad, it's a question of whether somebody should be able to legally do something. The problem is that you don't have the slightest idea of what freedom is all about. Turn in your fucking European citizenship, wherever it is, and join the real world, but just don't come to America, we have enough problems!
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:29 am
by John
bobevenson wrote:You are totally wrong, John. It doesn't matter whether I burn the U.S. flag or the Quran, I'll be on Fox News, CNN and a million other programs.
Is that because any American doing such an act will get saturated news coverage or is it just if you do it?
bobevenson wrote:And if you get me enough money, I'll do it tomorrow, and you'll get to see me on TV, which is worth the price pf admission.
So now you want me to finance you? What, you can't afford to buy a copy of the Koran and a box of matches?
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:52 am
by bobevenson
John wrote:bobevenson wrote:You are totally wrong, John. It doesn't matter whether I burn the U.S. flag or the Quran, I'll be on Fox News, CNN and a million other programs.
Is that because any American doing such an act will get saturated news coverage or is it just if you do it?
bobevenson wrote:Actually, any human being, but I would get more coverage due to my panache.
bobevenson wrote:And if you get me enough money, I'll do it tomorrow, and you'll get to see me on TV, which is worth the price pf admission.
So now you want me to finance you? What, you can't afford to buy a copy of the Koran and a box of matches?
bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'll buy the Koran and matches, but I don't do nothing for free, my friend.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:58 am
by John
bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'll buy the Koran and matches, but I don't do nothing for free, my friend.
It's your idea not mine so don't do me any favours.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:04 am
by bobevenson
John wrote:bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'll buy the Koran and matches, but I don't do nothing for free, my friend.
It's your idea not mine so don't do me any favours.
On the other hand, when the day comes that I want the publicty, I'll be able to get it done cheaply. God, what fools these mortals be!
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:33 am
by John
bobevenson wrote:Unfortunately, you can't do this in Europe without going to jail or worse. Viva Amerika!
I missed this post earlier but where in Europe has someone gone to jail for insulting a religious figure or burning a book or a flag? I certainly can't think of any cases in the UK but maybe I've forgotten a wider European example. Of course, Germany has it's particular laws on Holocaust denial but they're not about insults so I'm not sure what precedent you're citing here.
Please illuminate us.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:04 am
by chaz wyman
bobevenson wrote:chaz wyman wrote:
Buring religous symbols?
good or bad?
Burning the US flag.
good or bad?
See, that's why you don't know anything. It's not a question of whether you think something is good or bad, it's a question of whether somebody should be able to legally do something. The problem is that you don't have the slightest idea of what freedom is all about. Turn in your fucking European citizenship, wherever it is, and join the real world, but just don't come to America, we have enough problems!
And whilst you ignore most of the post, perhaps you might like to say what you mean by 'it', that is peppered throughout this response.
If you are seriously advocating JAMit, then it has to have a position on this and other issues.
So if I join your organisation will you support me if I want to use a copy of the Constitution to wipe my arse and burn the US flag? You will actively lend support to such behaviour.
I am an American citizen BTW.
It is just that with morons like you out there I am often ashamed to admit it and be associated with people like you.
FYI - there is no such thing as a European citizenship - your ignorance is boundless.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:14 pm
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:Hell, no, you don't have the right to threaten people with violence in the USA. But you sure as hell can draw pictures of Mohammed, and JAMit is designed to protect people's rights by taking the battle directly to those ragheads who would dare try to stifle our freedom of speech!
"Ragheads"
How very Christian of you. What a twat you are!
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:21 pm
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:Unfortunately, you can't do this in Europe without going to jail or worse. Viva Amerika!
Not sure what this "Europe" is? But you can burn our flag or the Europeon one all day long and no-one gives a toss. Why? Because we think such things are the acts of the immature loon.
Re: Anybody Want to Join My New Organization called JAMit?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:22 pm
by Arising_uk
bobevenson wrote:God, what fools these mortals be!
Who's this 'God' you are chatting to? Or is it you think you are immortal?
p.s.
Although come to think of it! Isn't this 'God' the same one the Muslims believe in?
BURN ALL GODBOTHERERS AND THEIR BOOKS!