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attofishpi, i haven't read all your posts in this thread, but anyhow, you are 'nut' alone i've found anyways, that dreams seem to be more than one thing. sometimes it seems to be what chaz is talking about, sometimes just seems to be nothing, sometimes, yes, sometimes they reveal future events. and sometimes they are something else so ambiguous who knows. but yes, they sometimes do reveal future events. this has happened to me to me many times, and i don't expect anyone to believe me. only those its happened to truly know that i am telling the truth. in fact, it just happened to me the other night.

i had a horrible nightmare. pulling off the side of a road, i swear it was in Montana, looking for a room in a hotel but things got very very confusing and wierd... it was just me and my youngest son. essentially, the whole thing had alot of good and bad in it, and fine lines where you couldn't tell which was which, there were people of various nationalities, and all sorts of crazy shit was going on, and it was very very difficult to find out who, if anyone was honest or your true friend or not, and i kept worry about my son, and he would occasionally appear and disappear while running in and out with all these other children, and i kept feeling so worried and scared for him, but then i kept seeing he was playing and having fun and happy, and so i would be temporarily but not entirely falsely relieved, and again, while inside this place, that was more like a, how do i describe this, a hotel area that was not a hotel, run down, different buildings, something, i don't know, but essentially the goings on were just nuts and confusing and awful feeling in the heart and messed with your mind, and it was an international atmosphere on the edge of a small montana town.

anyhow, at the end of the nightmare.. troops came in and lined everybody up and oh my god i can't tell you what they did. i almost want to, i can't. it's worse than any horror movie you've ever seen. it was worse than horrorible. worse.

i was running around looking for my son frantic and i thought they were going to do it to us too, and they were for a moment, and then for whatever reason at the very end it didn't happen to us, and i woke up.

i just took this as just another 'one of those wierd nightmares' and blew it off entirely. this was a few nights ago. today, i wrote in another post how my son clicked on some random video on the front page of youtube, and i watched most of it, i didnt' let him, he only watched the beginning, and i told him to go do something else positive and i watched most of it, and the contents of my dream were revealed in that video.

one of the other many times this has happened, on a lighter note, was one that was a positive one... just a normal one. i dreamt of something vividly, 'to the tee', and it happened the very next day in real life, 'to the tee'. absolutely, entirely and completely.

i could go on, but i won't.

i want to mention this, just because, i don't know why... but i believe it was the day after the nightmare 2 words started permeating me again. you'd be surprised how skeptical i am. i challenge these things when they happen. they always end up finding their place, even when i try to drop it or ignore it. i try my very very best not to derive any meaning from them through myself, unless it appears very very clear.

but anyway, this one was 'in spring', or 'eigsprieg'... i kept saying to myself... 'eigsprieg?' never heard of that before, so anyways 'in spring/eigsprieg'

i'm going to leave something out that i thought what it might be and keep it to myself, i felt that was too ambigous, and i let it go, finally, i think it was yesterday actually, i typed in those words on the net, and what i found was that it meant, 'the mirror of heaven.'

this is all i got about that one. make of it what you will, or ignore. i'm telling the truth. have nothing to gain by it. don't want money or fame, and all i will get is people calling me a nut. so what do i have to gain. anyways. there it is.

i wanted to add, just incase anyone might jump to conclusions, which is easy to do, i do it all the time, i don't take that to mean 'i am a mirror of heaven' (no way whatsoever) nor did i take any of that to mean 'the troops were either' or in any way anyone might assume i might have taken it to be. i'm just sharing what happened and that's it. take it as you like or don't bother with it at all. whatever.. just thought i'd share that and spare any possible wrong presumptions.

bus2bondi wrote:but anyway, this one was 'in spring', or 'eigsprieg'... i kept saying to myself... 'eigsprieg?' never heard of that before, so anyways 'in spring/eigsprieg'

i'm going to leave something out that i thought what it might be and keep it to myself, i felt that was too ambiguous, and i let it go, finally, i think it was yesterday actually, i typed in those words on the net, and what i found was that it meant, 'the mirror of heaven.'

Wow...that is awesome!
Im no dream analyser and as i said, you the dreamer would be the best interpreter. But i do know the system..God very well.

You see, this God system has definitely projected these two dreams...therefore, there is a reason for them being coupled together within a couple of days of each other.

I could be way off the mark here but here goes...
With the first one, your worst fears are being highlighted to you, you are insecure, fearful for your son, and yourself. The second one you are receiving affirmation (of quite the opposite). It is this opposite position that you need to have faith in..the truth is...and this is something that most of the populous that have earned it, don't real eyes. You are in heaven. boom boom.

If you consider the existence of a God controlled multiverse, take for a moment to consider the power of such an entity. A prospective thief walks past your house. You have left the front door wide open. The thief glances at your house. In his perception of reality, your door is closed. The mirror of heaven.

Perhaps you are worried about your son too much. Let him go and explore the world.
We work, we strive to build heaven here on Earth.
HEAVE_n (n infinity)

chaz wyman wrote: Dreams are not cryptic messages about the future; they are your brain sorting material of your experience.

are the two mutually exclusive?

my dream of being buried alive by a serial killer was obviously the result of too much "criminal minds" - my family now ganged up on me and won't let me watch it - and not a message about the future

on the other hand my dreams about the weather are slightly more reliable than the weather forecast on TV

yes i know this sounds really weird and makes me sound like a kook

Kayla wrote:

chaz wyman wrote: Dreams are not cryptic messages about the future; they are your brain sorting material of your experience.

are the two mutually exclusive?

As there can be NO cryptic massages available about the future, they are indeed mutually exclusive.

my dream of being buried alive by a serial killer was obviously the result of too much "criminal minds" - my family now ganged up on me and won't let me watch it - and not a message about the future

on the other hand my dreams about the weather are slightly more reliable than the weather forecast on TV

I doubt it. Guess work is not a cryptic massage about the future.
What you might be experiencing is that at times when your dream matches the weather - you are more likely to notice it. This is called selective bias.

yes i know this sounds really weird and makes me sound like a kook

Okay tell me what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.
We can compare it with the forecast and see what happens tomorrow.

chaz wyman wrote:Okay tell me what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.
We can compare it with the forecast and see what happens tomorrow.

i cannot have weather dreams on demand

next time i have a weather forecast dream i will write it down, put it in an envelop, put a signature across the seal and mail it to myself

i know about selective bias

last night I had a dream where i was trying to take tricorder readings of a car wreck while some guy in a wheel chair wearing a ski mask was trying to shoot me - with a regular pistol, not a phaser or anything

the transporter, of course, was broken

not much help in predicting the weather i am afraid

Kayla wrote:

chaz wyman wrote:Okay tell me what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.
We can compare it with the forecast and see what happens tomorrow.

i cannot have weather dreams on demand

next time i have a weather forecast dream i will write it down, put it in an envelop, put a signature across the seal and mail it to myself

i know about selective bias

last night I had a dream where i was trying to take tricorder readings of a car wreck while some guy in a wheel chair wearing a ski mask was trying to shoot me - with a regular pistol, not a phaser or anything

the transporter, of course, was broken

not much help in predicting the weather i am afraid

If you really think you can predict the weather then that is part of a wider delusion you have about the condition of the world you live in.

thanks attofishpi, i appreciate what you had to say about my nightmare and the words i received after it, although, as far as i've found, it has more significance than purely personal. i understand what your saying and will try to always keep it in mind. i had another nightmare the other night, and no words in pure awake mode attatched (such as put in a load of laundry, then went out to my porch to have a cigarette type pure awake mode, then it hits) that i posted a bit about in another thread, but that one i think was one of the 'normal' ones, however, it did have an impact on me.

i believe you kayla, maybe you have a weather vane in your brain?

perhaps you have a weather vane in your brain
one day its going to snow
one day its going to rain

everything else is normal
but when the lightning hits

you've got on your umbrella
well isn't that the shits??



i don't have dreams that forecast the weather myself, but i think it would be pretty interesting if i did. aside from my own self having experiences i won't get into, looking deeply at and in the world, the universe, everything, i find that it's very very very very difficult to discount the possibility of what your saying.

I predict it is going to rain.

I predict it is either going to rain or it's not and I'm absolutely sure that this is true.

Arising_uk wrote:I predict it is either going to rain or it's not and I'm absolutely sure that this is true.

It snowed didn't it?

So it did not rain, I'm a psychic!!

Arising_uk wrote:So it did not rain, I'm a psychic!!

Ooh yes...pay attention atto!

Arising_uk wrote:So it did not rain, I'm a psychic!!

It has not yet but it shall.

I am new to this forum and have just read about half of the posts on this subject. I can assure you that dreams are not "just a dream" because I have been working with my dreams since 1984 and have learned a little of the meaning of the symbols we use in our dreams. I have read Freud and Jung because they were supposed to be the primary sources of information on dreams. I found both to be much more complicated than my simple mind could absorb, so I did my own thing in accordance with an instruction I found in Dr. Joseph Murphy's POWER OF YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND. His theme is that the subconscious is that part of us that is always awake and always in touch with God. I was skeptical, but I tried his method and discovered a great deal about myself. I began recording my dreams in 1984 and have written 1600 plus pages of dreams during the intervening years. With the assistance of a wonderful woman, I began to learn to interpret my dreams and have learned a lot of the symbols we humans use as references.

In the first dream posted on this thread, the dreamer was in a dark place. Being "in the dark" simply means that the dreamer was unenlightened about what was worrying him/her.

As a general rule, I do not interpret dreams for others since I have no knowledge of the events in their lives. However, I will, if asked, tell a dreamer what the symbols in his/her dream mean, but they then have to apply that information to what is going on in their life.