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Historical Migration.

Conventional history of Kings and their dates tend to paint a picture of major catastrophic phases in history and ignores the micro-history of ordinary people.
However the ‘fall’ of Rome was a very gradual process. Gaul and Britain were invaded by Germanic tribes. In France the Franks did not keep their language, whilst in Britain the result was a more complete cultural shift so that the chief language changed to a Germanic one. The reason for this was not due to a difference in invasion but because of a significant difference in migration.
Before the Romans quit, Germanic people were already settled in the south of Britain, with client kingdoms installed to forestall some of the worst consequences of the Saxon raids along “Saxon Shore”. This migration continued for 100s of years. The ‘celtic’ speaking people did not all pack up and move West and North, but the establishment of the English language was achieved more with integration and the adoption of the majority/ ruling language, than it was by an invading force.
Bede in his History describes the Saxon invasion as arriving in only 3 ships. The invasion per se was a change in the super-structure, and involved a regime change. Cultural change was effected by long periods of migration and assimilation, not through invasion.

Some other pre-"recent" immigrant groups you might like to consider.

Hugenots, Jews, Dutch, Germans (Georgian period), Irish (particularly massive 1800-1850), Welsh, Scots

If you can't store money, as some think, you can certainly park it in investments, like in real estate.

And real estate generally appreciates and you can sell it for more. So, that's like money working, making more money.

I was fortunate to buy some property and then rent it out and get an income from it. That is also money working, making money.

zorro wrote:If you can't store money, as some think, you can certainly park it in investments, like in real estate.

And real estate generally appreciates and you can sell it for more. So, that's like money working, making more money.

I was fortunate to buy some property and then rent it out and get an income from it. That is also money working, making money.

How very special of you!

God help the hard of thinking!!

Do you not realise that the prime cause of the current world economic crisis is the due mainly to the buying and selling of property?
You really are a 22carat p****.

I'd ROTFLMFHO if your naive stupidity was not so fucking crass and sad.

Perhaps the sound of capitalism is Chaz chafing at the thought of it. There is a burning snell that goes with it also.

zorro wrote:Perhaps the sound of capitalism is Chaz chafing at the thought of it. There is a burning snell that goes with it also.

I think that burning smell is the smell of your remaining brain cells exploding. Both of them!

There appears to be a 'human entity' stuck in a goat.

http://youtu.be/zzctPPkUPkk

Pluto wrote:There appears to be a 'human entity' stuck in a goat.

http://youtu.be/zzctPPkUPkk

Are you saying I am the goat or Zorro?

Neither. I went looking for the sound of people arguing and that link with the Spanish guy and goat came up. In fact I have often thought that Capitalism requires friction in order to generate energy. So competitiveness in all its forms would create the friction and thus energy that would lead to some kind of growth within the organism and thus its society. Arguing is friction, friction is competitiveness, competitiveness is Capitalism. Arguing is Capitalism. Chaz and zorro have illustrated quite literally a sound of Capitalism.

Pluto wrote:Neither. I went looking for the sound of people arguing and that link with the Spanish guy and goat came up. In fact I have often thought that Capitalism requires friction in order to generate energy. So competitiveness in all its forms would create the friction and thus energy that would lead to some kind of growth within the organism and thus its society. Arguing is friction, friction is competitiveness, competitiveness is Capitalism. Arguing is Capitalism. Chaz and zorro have illustrated quite literally a sound of Capitalism.

Right on!

walking into STARBUCKS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fob1WXnRQrs

spike wrote:

Pluto wrote:Neither. I went looking for the sound of people arguing and that link with the Spanish guy and goat came up. In fact I have often thought that Capitalism requires friction in order to generate energy. So competitiveness in all its forms would create the friction and thus energy that would lead to some kind of growth within the organism and thus its society. Arguing is friction, friction is competitiveness, competitiveness is Capitalism. Arguing is Capitalism. Chaz and zorro have illustrated quite literally a sound of Capitalism.

Right on!

Bollocks.
People have argued long before Capitalism and will continue to do so long after is is just a smear of human stupidity on the face of history.

I don't think I meant there was no arguing before Capitalism, just that Capitalism thrives on/off of, a non-harmonious relationhip between two or more entities. Like rubbing sticks together perhaps.