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Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:48 pm
by Greatest I am
chaz wyman wrote:Greatest I am wrote:chaz wyman wrote:[Evidence enough for the point I was making - is that there is no hard and fast doctrine and that the church believes nothing today that it will insist upon tomorrow.
In the last 300 years or more it has followed changing public opinion on ethics and has not led it, at least in the West.
This ought to be enough to assert that religion has nothing to do with the moral teaching of an immutable god, and everything to do with the vicissitudes of human society.
We should be suspicious and attack any claim that the church is the leader of ethical opinion.
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Sign me up.
For anything that is going?
Regards
DL
Not anything but everything that denies the church the opportunity to blame an invisible super absentee God for their moral positions.
Regards
DL
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:22 pm
by chaz wyman
Greatest I am wrote:
Not anything but everything that denies the church the opportunity to blame an invisible super absentee God for their moral positions.
Regards
DL
I'll drink to that
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:49 pm
by Izzywizzy
Chaz you are misquoting me
You wrote this
[quoteIzzywizzy wrote:
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This is true to a point. The church can still, and still does, discriminate against gay marriage, and against gays becoming priests.
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I didn`t write that so please correct it ty. You wrote it Chaz you should add your name as it says Izzy wrote then your quote,I
also didn`t write this misquote by Greatest I Am
chaz wyman wrote:
Izzywizzy wrote:
[That would be a first. Doctrines, it seems are for changing. At least we don't burn witches any more.
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really you guys get yourself together and get the peoples right names for your quotes..I didn`t mention witches its most likely Chaz wymans quote there
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:46 pm
by chaz wyman
Izzywizzy wrote:Chaz you are misquoting me
You wrote this
[quoteIzzywizzy wrote:
Quote:
This is true to a point. The church can still, and still does, discriminate against gay marriage, and against gays becoming priests.
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I didn`t write that so please correct it ty. You wrote it Chaz you should add your name as it says Izzy wrote then your quote,I
also didn`t write this misquote by Greatest I Am
chaz wyman wrote:
Izzywizzy wrote:
[That would be a first. Doctrines, it seems are for changing. At least we don't burn witches any more.
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really you guys get yourself together and get the peoples right names for your quotes..I didn`t mention witches its most likely Chaz wymans quote there[/quote]
You really should be more careful and check your facts.I was not quoting from you, but Quoting "Greatest I am".
Look back to that 02 Mar 2011, 16:53, where you will see that the quote was already embedded in his work which I was quoting.
So it's you that are misquoting me.
As I was not even responding to what you were saying I hardly think it is up to you to lay down the law.
Sort yourself out and stop being so petty.
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:49 pm
by chaz wyman
As you can see from the last example. Where all I did was write a response below yours - the whole thing can get screwed up. That is why I tend to use colour to distinguish my writing from others.
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:44 pm
by spike
I don't think it matters much anymore if the Church discriminates against gays, because gays and the world have moved on, beyond the constraints of the Church. Life can be lived without the Church. And for many gays who remain religious, they have adjusted and learned to reconcile their life style with the dogma of the Church, accepting some doctrine and discarding others.
Today's gays are existentialist whose live style is not going to be crimped by some orthodox institution like the Church.
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:20 pm
by Greatest I am
spike wrote:I don't think it matters much anymore if the Church discriminates against gays, because gays and the world have moved on, beyond the constraints of the Church. Life can be lived without the Church. And for many gays who remain religious, they have adjusted and learned to reconcile their life style with the dogma of the Church, accepting some doctrine and discarding others.
Today's gays are existentialist whose live style is not going to be crimped by some orthodox institution like the Church.
Talk about short and uncaring sight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlyh2XbbtsM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_B ... re=related
For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
Thanks for showing you believe in doing nothing.
Regards
DL
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:35 pm
by spike
G I A
Your emotionally distracted from the issue.
I didn't find any mention that the Church made people kill gays.
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:56 pm
by Greatest I am
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:05 pm
by spike
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:26 am
by Izzywizzy
Does WTF stand for Wrestling Toddlers Federation?
lol well questioned Spike
..I think militant gays like to make a crisis out of a drama..in other words big deals out of small change
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:51 pm
by Greatest I am
Izzywizzy wrote:Does WTF stand for Wrestling Toddlers Federation?
lol well questioned Spike
..I think militant gays like to make a crisis out of a drama..in other words big deals out of small change
I have yet to see a militant Gay here.
Regards
DL
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:32 pm
by spike
The Church is a conservative institution. The acceptance of homosexuality is a liberal one. No wonder, then, there is still friction on the issue. However, we should take comfort in the fact that the liberal view is the dominant one.
This highlights the fact that we generally live in a liberal world that is constantly liberalizing.
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:01 pm
by Greatest I am
spike wrote:The Church is a conservative institution. The acceptance of homosexuality is a liberal one. No wonder, then, there is still friction on the issue. However, we should take comfort in the fact that the liberal view is the dominant one.
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Stats please.
Regards
DL
Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:55 am
by spike
Stats please.
What are stats?
