IC please clarify for us

[Walker]

The opposite of a VOG is a Dad.

Dads are responsible for everything.

That seeps into the bones too, and Dads can end up feeling responsible for everything that goes wrong, for others.

It's a different kind of burden than VOGs experience.

[Gary Childress]

The opposite of a VOG is a Dad.

Dads are responsible for everything.

That seeps into the bones too, and Dads can end up feeling responsible for everything that goes wrong, for others.

It's a different kind of burden than VOGs experience.

Are you a dad?

[Walker]

Oh yeah. Many times over.

[Gary Childress]

Oh yeah. Many times over.

Would you want more of me running around in the world? Did I not make the right choice in not being a Dad?

[Walker]

Oh yeah. Many times over.

Would you want more of me running around in the world? Did I not make the right choice in not being a Dad?

I have no idea.

However, rationality can fight through being responsible for everything.
It can also become the guiding light when self-enquiry deconstructs the known and incapacitates.

A bit-o' gratitude fuels rationality.

[Gary Childress]

Oh yeah. Many times over.

Would you want more of me running around in the world? Did I not make the right choice in not being a Dad?

I have no idea.

However, rationality can fight through being responsible for everything.
It can also become the guiding light when self-enquiry deconstructs the known and incapacitates.

A bit-o' gratitude fuels rationality.

I'm sorry if my lack of gratitude brings you down.

[Walker]

Would you want more of me running around in the world? Did I not make the right choice in not being a Dad?

I have no idea.

However, rationality can fight through being responsible for everything.
It can also become the guiding light when self-enquiry deconstructs the known and incapacitates.

A bit-o' gratitude fuels rationality.

I'm sorry if my lack of gratitude brings you down.

?

Oh, I get it. No, I'm talking about incapacitation from self-enquiry, which is a relentless, self-perpetuating engine that once started, is totally beyond your control.

Eventually, one integrates into the mundane and can again chop wood and haul water. Self-enquiry ends. The end of seeking is the end of self-enquiry, and that energy from the relentless engine transfers into awareness.

I'm talking about changing the view ... not the mood of the moment.

[Gary Childress]

I have no idea.

However, rationality can fight through being responsible for everything.
It can also become the guiding light when self-enquiry deconstructs the known and incapacitates.

A bit-o' gratitude fuels rationality.

I'm sorry if my lack of gratitude brings you down.

?

Oh, I get it. No, I'm talking about incapacitation from self-enquiry, which is a relentless, self-perpetuating engine that once started, is totally beyond your control.

Eventually, one integrates into the mundane and can again chop wood and haul water. Self-enquiry ends. The end of seeking is the end of self-enquiry, and that energy from the relentless engine transfers into awareness.

I'm talking about changing the view ... not the mood of the moment.

Does "self-awareness" cause one to support the policies of someone like Trump, such as International terrorism (for example)? Do you feel that you are more "self-aware" than I am? Can you describe what "self-awareness" feels like to you? Does it mean that you become only aware of yourself and stop thinking of other people? Or does being a dad mean that the only other people you think of are friends and relatives, and people in other parts of the world don't exist?

[Walker]

I’ll tell this you much for nothing, Gary Childress.
Use it as you will in your world of understanding.

For me, after decades of structured meditation, followed by self-enquiry that ended decades ago complete with experiences and insights that had led to seeking explanations ...

That gave me a need for seeking the vocabulary for what I learned. It led me to those who knew what I had learned.
It’s how I learned that there even was a term called, self-enquiry.
It’s how I even learned that there is such a thing as, e-prime.

That's not all, though. There weren't many who had gone through, what I did.
I found a few. Sometimes I quote them.

It's how I also learned to distinguish delusions in myself and others.
And the clinging to those delusions.
I discovered them, then discovered that others had also found them.

And, here’s the point, Gary. Take it to heart, as arrogant as that sounds.

After the self-enquiry ends and one knows, speculation from others becomes obvious.

No insult intended.

[Gary Childress]

I’ll tell this you much for nothing, Gary Childress.
Use it as you will in your world of understanding.

For me, after decades of structured meditation, followed by self-enquiry that ended decades ago, experiences and insights led to seeking explanations.

That gave me a vocabulary for what I learned. It led me to those who knew what I had learned.
It’s how I learned that there even was a term called, self-enquiry.
It’s how I even learned that there is such a thing as, e-prime.

It's how I also learned to distinguish delusions in myself and others.
And the clinging to those delusions.
I discovered them, then discovered that others had also found them.

And, here’s the point, Gary. Take it to heart, as arrogant as that sounds.

After the self-enquiry ends and one knows, speculation from others becomes obvious.

No insult intended.

If you say so. I guess you should keep on believing what you believe if it makes you happy.

[Walker]

It's not a matter belief, Gary, as much as you want to believe that.

Those who know what they know, know.

Those who don't, agnosticate.

It not a matter of happiness, Gary.


Are these clues to your attachment to projecting?

[Gary Childress]

It's not a matter belief, Gary, as much as you want to believe that.

Those who know what they know, know.

Those who don't, agnosticate.

It not a matter of happiness, Gary.


Are these clues to your attachment to projecting?

Sigh. Talking to you is worse than talking to a cinderblock.

[Walker]

There are many cinderblocks in your world, aren't there.

Could be the truth is your cinderblock, like gratitude is your cinderblock.

(did he just say that?)

[Walker]

That's enough fodder for you to sigh over and dismiss for today.

[Walker]

Does "self-awareness" cause one to support the policies of someone like Trump, such as International terrorism (for example)?
Bullshit question. (I know)

Do you feel that you are more "self-aware" than I am?
Obviously. You are mentally ill.

Can you describe what "self-awareness" feels like to you?
Yes. I am is true. Did you hear that?

Does it mean that you become only aware of yourself and stop thinking of other people?
Bullshit question.

Or does being a dad mean that the only other people you think of are friends and relatives, and people in other parts of the world don't exist?
Bullshit question.

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Gary, your boundary, your defense against truth, your limitation in this realm ...

Is bullshit questions.

Just sayin' ...