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Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:40 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Impenitent wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:49 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:10 am
Impenitent wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:35 am

you haven't heard of the war against drugs? the war on crime?

what precedent? be careful who you try to kill with drugs, they may kill you back...

-Imp
Riiiight. Yeah. If you won't have social justice, you must have war and order.
"justice" derived from conflict

-Imp
Social justice, levelling up to the average for the 80%, can only be obtained by conflict, struggle, jihad, but never be obtained by violence.

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:53 pm
by Impenitent
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:40 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:49 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:10 am
Riiiight. Yeah. If you won't have social justice, you must have war and order.
"justice" derived from conflict

-Imp
Social justice, levelling up to the average for the 80%, can only be obtained by conflict, struggle, jihad, but never be obtained by violence.
one man's conflict, struggle and jihad is another man's violence

-Imp

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:01 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Impenitent wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:53 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:40 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:49 pm

"justice" derived from conflict

-Imp
Social justice, levelling up to the average for the 80%, can only be obtained by conflict, struggle, jihad, but never be obtained by violence.
one man's conflict, struggle and jihad is another man's violence

-Imp
That which begets violence is institutionalised violence. End that without violence.

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:36 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:33 am They've extra-judiciously executed another boatload of Colombian-Venezuelan fentanyl drug runners.
How full? The thing about actual drug running is that you don't put very many people in the boat, there's a driver and somebody to unload and that's usually about it.
11 in the last boat, 17 in the last 3. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5q173053o

Impunity rules the waves, and waives the rules. Understandably. It probably dents supply by 20%.

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:41 pm
by Gary Childress
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:33 am They've extra-judiciously executed another boatload of Colombian-Venezuelan fentanyl drug runners.
How full? The thing about actual drug running is that you don't put very many people in the boat, there's a driver and somebody to unload and that's usually about it.
11 in the last boat, 17 in the last 3. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5q173053o

Impunity rules the waves, and waives the rules. Understandably. It probably dents supply by 20%.
Sounds more like a refugee boat than a drug running boat.

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:16 pm
by FlashDangerpants
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 7:33 am They've extra-judiciously executed another boatload of Colombian-Venezuelan fentanyl drug runners.
How full? The thing about actual drug running is that you don't put very many people in the boat, there's a driver and somebody to unload and that's usually about it.
11 in the last boat, 17 in the last 3. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5q173053o

Impunity rules the waves, and waives the rules. Understandably. It probably dents supply by 20%.
Everybody in a drug smuggling boat is well paid and trusted to remain silent. If you are smuggling drugs you don't take extra people, it is too expensive and somebody will talk if captured. That wasn't a drugs boat.

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:27 pm
by Gary Childress
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:16 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:07 pm

How full? The thing about actual drug running is that you don't put very many people in the boat, there's a driver and somebody to unload and that's usually about it.
11 in the last boat, 17 in the last 3. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5q173053o

Impunity rules the waves, and waives the rules. Understandably. It probably dents supply by 20%.
Everybody in a drug smuggling boat is well paid and trusted to remain silent. If you are smuggling drugs you don't take extra people, it is too expensive and somebody will talk if captured. That wasn't a drugs boat.
Either that or drug runners were using a sightseeing boat to smuggle drugs into the country. Many innocent, but 'noble' tourists died that day in the name of Trump's "war on drugs"!

Re: US military against cartels based in Mexico

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:01 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:27 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:16 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:36 pm
11 in the last boat, 17 in the last 3. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5q173053o

Impunity rules the waves, and waives the rules. Understandably. It probably dents supply by 20%.
Everybody in a drug smuggling boat is well paid and trusted to remain silent. If you are smuggling drugs you don't take extra people, it is too expensive and somebody will talk if captured. That wasn't a drugs boat.
Either that or drug runners were using a sightseeing boat to smuggle drugs into the country. Many innocent, but 'noble' tourists died that day in the name of Trump's "war on drugs"!
And nobody's missed them.