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Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:35 pm

ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:31 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:06 am The tree of knowledge of good and evil' is in regards to how within all the knowledge of what is actually Right and Wrong, in Life, is instinctively known. And then how at one stage through evolution human beings 'chose' to do Wrong, (what some might call against the natural order of things), and how Wrong was chosen over Right.

It will all make perfect sense to those who are Truly open, and Truly interested, in discussing things, here.

Do you believe that " all the knowledge of what is actually Right and Wrong, in Life, is instinctively known"? If so, what leads you to believe that that is true?

I only believe in one thing, and it is certainly not 'that'.

I know that what is actually Right, and Wrong, in Life. And, what led me to this recognising and knowing this irrefutable Fact was just being Truly Honest, Open, and Wanting to change, for the better.

See, 'we' are all born 'knowing', instinctively, Right from Wrong. But, 'this knowledge' remains 'unconsciously known', until it becomes 'consciously known'. And, when 'that knowledge' is then wanted to be consciously learned, by others, then the passing on of the knowledge of Right, and Wrong, or good and evil, can spread much more quicker, and far more efficiently .

Not sure what to make of this. It's a bit of a muddle. On one hand, you say that you do not believe that "all the knowledge of what is actually Right and Wrong, in Life, is instinctively known". On the other you go on to say that " 'we' are all born 'knowing', instinctively, Right from Wrong". Then you go on to say that it is " 'unconsciously known', until it becomes 'consciously known'". Perhaps it would help clear things up, if you were to elaborate.

ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:19 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:35 pm

ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:31 pm

Do you believe that " all the knowledge of what is actually Right and Wrong, in Life, is instinctively known"? If so, what leads you to believe that that is true?

I only believe in one thing, and it is certainly not 'that'.

I know that what is actually Right, and Wrong, in Life. And, what led me to this recognising and knowing this irrefutable Fact was just being Truly Honest, Open, and Wanting to change, for the better.

See, 'we' are all born 'knowing', instinctively, Right from Wrong. But, 'this knowledge' remains 'unconsciously known', until it becomes 'consciously known'. And, when 'that knowledge' is then wanted to be consciously learned, by others, then the passing on of the knowledge of Right, and Wrong, or good and evil, can spread much more quicker, and far more efficiently .

Not sure what to make of this. It's a bit of a muddle.

Okay, and obviously if you never seek out clarity, through just asking some clarifying questions, then you may well remain 'muddled'.

ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:19 am On one hand, you say that you do not believe that "all the knowledge of what is actually Right and Wrong, in Life, is instinctively known". On the other you go on to say that " 'we' are all born 'knowing', instinctively, Right from Wrong".

It appears that you did not notice and recognize that I said and wrote, 'I know ...', which is obviously very different from, 'I believe ...'.

See, 'knowing some thing' holds far more certainty than just 'believing some thing'. Now, if you would like to have a discussion about 'this' and/or would like some examples, which back up and support, irrefutably, what 'this' leads to, shows, and proves, then just let me know. There is actually nothing muddled, here, besides you and/or your own views.

ThinkOfOne wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:19 am Then you go on to say that it is " 'unconsciously known', until it becomes 'consciously known'". Perhaps it would help clear things up, if you were to elaborate.

What is 'it', exactly, that you are 'muddled' about, here, which you would like elaborated, for you?

Within every one there is an instinctual knowing if what is Right, and what is Wrong, in Life. In the days when this is being written, this 'instinctual knowing' is just not yet 'consciously known' by just about all adult human beings.

Thus, the knowledge of what is Right, and Wrong, in Life, or as some might refer to as the knowledge of good and evil, is, still, just 'unconsciously known', by the far majority of you.

If there is some thing specific that you would like elaborated on, then by all means just ask the specific clarifying question/s. Obviously the more specific your questions are, then the more specific answers I am able to provide you

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:09 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm The Garden of Eden, or the pre-separation condition, was a state of mind in which nothing was needed.

But, the only four things that are needed, 'now', were the same four things that were needed, 'back then'. So, why do you say and claim that absolutely nothing was needed, back then?

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ²When Adam listened to the “lies of the serpent,” all he heard was untruth.

I thought it was "eve" who listened to the lies from the serpent and that it was then the lies from "eve", which "adam" listened to.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ³You do not have to continue to believe what is not true unless you choose to do so.

And you have shown living proof of this, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ⁴All that can literally disappear in the twinkling of an eye because it is merely a misperception. ⁵What is seen in dreams seems to be very real. ⁶Yet the Bible says that a deep sleep fell upon Adam, and nowhere is there reference to his waking up.

And that is just because you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, have just not yet 'woken up'.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm The statement in the passage is a biblical reference to Genesis 2:21, where the Bible describes God causing a deep sleep on Adam. While the verse mentions Adam sleeping, it doesn't explicitly mention his waking up afterwards. The narrative focuses on God taking a rib from Adam while he was asleep, using it to create Eve, and then presenting her to Adam. While the text doesn't explicitly detail Adam's waking, the context suggests he later recognizes Eve as "bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh" (Genesis 2:23), implying he was eventually aware of the events that took place while he slept.

Or, it just symbolises the fact that every one one has come from another, or more correctly from others.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ————


The above passages are pointing to the idea that only God is lucid within his own dream.

Why 'these people' persist with the obvious distorted belief that God is a "he" is because 'they' have just not yet 'woken up'. For 'they' do not yet know why, nor what, 'they' do.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm Dreams are nightmares too. Those nightmares are what a lot of philosophers are pointing to. Including TL in the OP

If you want to believe so, and say so.

God is a he,she, it, that, this, us, me, them, in others words everything IN this immaculate conception. I and the creator are ONE


God is Adam, and Adam is Eve. This is not difficult to understand. Stop making it difficult, Age. I understand that sometimes what can seem to be complicated is actually very simple, and what is simple can sometimes be seen to be difficult, that’s unavoidable. The seers will either see or they won’t in the world of the blind. It’s not so much about seeing anyway because there is only seeing. I and the creator are one, one doesn’t need to make one about itself, it’s already itself. It doesn’t need to show up to it’s own show.

God is the Father Adam. And Adam is the Mother Eve.

And the child is the conception. In other words the word of God.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:09 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm The Garden of Eden, or the pre-separation condition, was a state of mind in which nothing was needed.

But, the only four things that are needed, 'now', were the same four things that were needed, 'back then'. So, why do you say and claim that absolutely nothing was needed, back then?

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ²When Adam listened to the “lies of the serpent,” all he heard was untruth.

I thought it was "eve" who listened to the lies from the serpent and that it was then the lies from "eve", which "adam" listened to.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ³You do not have to continue to believe what is not true unless you choose to do so.

And you have shown living proof of this, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ⁴All that can literally disappear in the twinkling of an eye because it is merely a misperception. ⁵What is seen in dreams seems to be very real. ⁶Yet the Bible says that a deep sleep fell upon Adam, and nowhere is there reference to his waking up.

And that is just because you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, have just not yet 'woken up'.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm The statement in the passage is a biblical reference to Genesis 2:21, where the Bible describes God causing a deep sleep on Adam. While the verse mentions Adam sleeping, it doesn't explicitly mention his waking up afterwards. The narrative focuses on God taking a rib from Adam while he was asleep, using it to create Eve, and then presenting her to Adam. While the text doesn't explicitly detail Adam's waking, the context suggests he later recognizes Eve as "bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh" (Genesis 2:23), implying he was eventually aware of the events that took place while he slept.

Or, it just symbolises the fact that every one one has come from another, or more correctly from others.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm ————


The above passages are pointing to the idea that only God is lucid within his own dream.

Why 'these people' persist with the obvious distorted belief that God is a "he" is because 'they' have just not yet 'woken up'. For 'they' do not yet know why, nor what, 'they' do.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:55 pm Dreams are nightmares too. Those nightmares are what a lot of philosophers are pointing to. Including TL in the OP

If you want to believe so, and say so.

God is a he,she, it, that, this, us, me, them, in others words everything IN this immaculate conception. I and the creator are ONE


God is Adam, and Adam is Eve.

God is not "adam", and "adam" is not "eve", obviously.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am This is not difficult to understand. Stop making it difficult, Age.

It and this are not difficult, as they are very simple and easy to comprehend and understand.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am I understand that sometimes what can seem to be complicated is actually very simple, and what is simple can sometimes be seen to be difficult, that’s unavoidable.

But, there is not any thing difficult, complicated, nor hard, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am The seers will either see or they won’t in the world of the blind. It’s not so much about seeing anyway because there is only seeing. I and the creator are one, one doesn’t need to make one about itself, it’s already itself. It doesn’t need to show up to it’s own show.

Yet, 'the one' known as 'you', here, is still not seeing, and thus 'now' blind.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:43 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:09 pm

But, the only four things that are needed, 'now', were the same four things that were needed, 'back then'. So, why do you say and claim that absolutely nothing was needed, back then?



I thought it was "eve" who listened to the lies from the serpent and that it was then the lies from "eve", which "adam" listened to.


And you have shown living proof of this, here.


And that is just because you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, have just not yet 'woken up'.



Or, it just symbolises the fact that every one one has come from another, or more correctly from others.


Why 'these people' persist with the obvious distorted belief that God is a "he" is because 'they' have just not yet 'woken up'. For 'they' do not yet know why, nor what, 'they' do.


If you want to believe so, and say so.

God is a he,she, it, that, this, us, me, them, in others words everything IN this immaculate conception. I and the creator are ONE


God is Adam, and Adam is Eve.

God is not "adam", and "adam" is not "eve", obviously.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am This is not difficult to understand. Stop making it difficult, Age.

It and this are not difficult, as they are very simple and easy to comprehend and understand.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am I understand that sometimes what can seem to be complicated is actually very simple, and what is simple can sometimes be seen to be difficult, that’s unavoidable.

But, there is not any thing difficult, complicated, nor hard, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am The seers will either see or they won’t in the world of the blind. It’s not so much about seeing anyway because there is only seeing. I and the creator are one, one doesn’t need to make one about itself, it’s already itself. It doesn’t need to show up to it’s own show.

Yet, 'the one' known as 'you', here, is still not seeing, and thus 'now' blind.

You’re welcome to your own personal opinion of course. But I don’t care about it, I have zero use for it, it has no value or significance and makes zero difference to my personal reality and the way I perceive it.

The emperor has no clothes. Every single life form as emerged from the exact same cosmic womb.

And that to me, is all I need to understand, all I need to recognise, and I do, and I can.

Every human living alive life form has the same exact one unchanging thing in common, and that is the capacity to think. But how those thoughts formulate a narrative or conceptually interpret the way things are, are all completely different.

It’s different that’s all, no two or infinite thinkers think alike, because “Reality” the way it actually is, is unwritten, therefore it has no copyright. The mind writes the story, and the mind is also the story, and nothing ever happened in a story, just as nothing ever happened in a dream.

Have a nice day. Anyone of us could be vanished from existence tomorrow. The time is only ever now, and now is always enough.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:12 pm Trigger warning.

Watch till the end only if you dare.
The raw brutal truth of human knowledge is not for the faint of heart.
Look away all yee who are scared of horror movies.
For those who are real seers, sit back,relax, and enjoy your popcorn and the movie of course

https://youtu.be/prVIm5PNtIc?si=0clwhumPMO7HhijB

Knowledge is the act of distinction, with eating of the tree came the first distinction and with distinction seperation. Eating of the tree was the first judgement of man and it brought the judgement of man as the act of judging the creation one is created within is to judge oneself due to the reciprocal nature of existence.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:43 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am

God is a he,she, it, that, this, us, me, them, in others words everything IN this immaculate conception. I and the creator are ONE


God is Adam, and Adam is Eve.

God is not "adam", and "adam" is not "eve", obviously.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am This is not difficult to understand. Stop making it difficult, Age.

It and this are not difficult, as they are very simple and easy to comprehend and understand.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am I understand that sometimes what can seem to be complicated is actually very simple, and what is simple can sometimes be seen to be difficult, that’s unavoidable.

But, there is not any thing difficult, complicated, nor hard, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am The seers will either see or they won’t in the world of the blind. It’s not so much about seeing anyway because there is only seeing. I and the creator are one, one doesn’t need to make one about itself, it’s already itself. It doesn’t need to show up to it’s own show.

Yet, 'the one' known as 'you', here, is still not seeing, and thus 'now' blind.

You’re welcome to your own personal opinion of course. But I don’t care about it, I have zero use for it, it has no value or significance and makes zero difference to my personal reality and the way I perceive it.

The emperor has no clothes. Every single life form as emerged from the exact same cosmic womb.

And that to me, is all I need to understand, all I need to recognise, and I do, and I can.

Every human living alive life form has the same exact one unchanging thing in common, and that is the capacity to think. But how those thoughts formulate a narrative or conceptually interpret the way things are, are all completely different.

Thinking, by Nature, changes. Some thoughts are the exact same, and thus not completely different at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am It’s different that’s all, no two or infinite thinkers think alike, because “Reality” the way it actually is, is unwritten, therefore it has no copyright.

There is only One Reality, and any thought, which aligns with 'that One Reality' is not different, at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am The mind writes the story, and the mind is also the story, and nothing ever happened in a story, just as nothing ever happened in a dream.

The One and only Mind works completely different from what is alleged and claimed, here, by 'the one' known as "fairy", here.

As can be, and will be, proved, irrefutably.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am Have a nice day. Anyone of us could be vanished from existence tomorrow. The time is only ever now, and now is always enough.

Not every one of 'us' could be vanished from Existence, Itself, tomorrow, today, nor yesterday.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:41 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:43 am

God is not "adam", and "adam" is not "eve", obviously.



It and this are not difficult, as they are very simple and easy to comprehend and understand.



But, there is not any thing difficult, complicated, nor hard, here.


Yet, 'the one' known as 'you', here, is still not seeing, and thus 'now' blind.

You’re welcome to your own personal opinion of course. But I don’t care about it, I have zero use for it, it has no value or significance and makes zero difference to my personal reality and the way I perceive it.

The emperor has no clothes. Every single life form as emerged from the exact same cosmic womb.

And that to me, is all I need to understand, all I need to recognise, and I do, and I can.

Every human living alive life form has the same exact one unchanging thing in common, and that is the capacity to think. But how those thoughts formulate a narrative or conceptually interpret the way things are, are all completely different.

Thinking, by Nature, changes. Some thoughts are the exact same, and thus not completely different at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am It’s different that’s all, no two or infinite thinkers think alike, because “Reality” the way it actually is, is unwritten, therefore it has no copyright.

There is only One Reality, and any thought, which aligns with 'that One Reality' is not different, at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am The mind writes the story, and the mind is also the story, and nothing ever happened in a story, just as nothing ever happened in a dream.

The One and only Mind works completely different from what is alleged and claimed, here, by 'the one' known as "fairy", here.

As can be, and will be, proved, irrefutably.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am Have a nice day. Anyone of us could be vanished from existence tomorrow. The time is only ever now, and now is always enough.

Not every one of 'us' could be vanished from Existence, Itself, tomorrow, today, nor yesterday.

Same.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:23 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:41 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am

You’re welcome to your own personal opinion of course. But I don’t care about it, I have zero use for it, it has no value or significance and makes zero difference to my personal reality and the way I perceive it.

The emperor has no clothes. Every single life form as emerged from the exact same cosmic womb.

And that to me, is all I need to understand, all I need to recognise, and I do, and I can.

Every human living alive life form has the same exact one unchanging thing in common, and that is the capacity to think. But how those thoughts formulate a narrative or conceptually interpret the way things are, are all completely different.

Thinking, by Nature, changes. Some thoughts are the exact same, and thus not completely different at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am It’s different that’s all, no two or infinite thinkers think alike, because “Reality” the way it actually is, is unwritten, therefore it has no copyright.

There is only One Reality, and any thought, which aligns with 'that One Reality' is not different, at all.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am The mind writes the story, and the mind is also the story, and nothing ever happened in a story, just as nothing ever happened in a dream.

The One and only Mind works completely different from what is alleged and claimed, here, by 'the one' known as "fairy", here.

As can be, and will be, proved, irrefutably.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am Have a nice day. Anyone of us could be vanished from existence tomorrow. The time is only ever now, and now is always enough.

Not every one of 'us' could be vanished from Existence, Itself, tomorrow, today, nor yesterday.

Same.

Some of 'us' are, here, forever.

Just like some of 'us' can, and do, know and see what you claim can not be known and seen.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:30 pm
Some of 'us' are, here, forever.

Just like some of 'us' can, and do, know and see what you claim can not be known and seen.

What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is.



I am God but I have no way of knowing so. Then came you. I can't know myself as God but since you are the same as me, I have a chance to know you as God. Ergo get oneself quiet and see you as the utterly perfect God incarnation.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:30 pm
Some of 'us' are, here, forever.

Just like some of 'us' can, and do, know and see what you claim can not be known and seen.

What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is.

But, all there is is already known.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:23 am I am God but I have no way of knowing so. Then came you. I can't know myself as God but since you are the same as me, I have a chance to know you as God. Ergo get oneself quiet and see you as the utterly perfect God incarnation.

Once again, 'you' are getting closer, and close. But, 'you' are not HERE, yet.

And, once 'you' arrive, and are, HERE, 'you' will will understand where 'you' have been Wrong and Incorrect, while also understanding that what 'I' have always been saying and showing, here, was actually always Right, and Correct