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Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:38 am Shhh, I am no one, I am silence sounding.

In dualistic terms, Age, moderators, and the one who pays the bills have the implicit license to Shhh in this realm.

I get it. You're beginning a group poem of truth that is truth because it applies to all, and not just circumstance.

Three questions remain.
1. Will there be a third line?
2. What individual will discover the third line?
3. What will be the quality of the Discovery.


Poem Title: What the hell is that sound?

"Shhh, I am no one, I am silence sounding."
Since silent Shhh sounds of seeping gas can clear a room

(Doggerel permitted if ambiguous)

The Truth appearing heard is never heard.

No biggy, just a minor detail.

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:28 am

The Truth appearing heard is never heard.

No biggy, just a minor detail.

"Shhh, I am no one, I am silence sounding"
Since silent Shhh sounds of seeping gas can clear a room
The Truth appearing heard is never heard
When a seeping Shhh sound precludes a malodorous thurd

(Couplets are easier for committee poetry)

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:38 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:28 am

The Truth appearing heard is never heard.

No biggy, just a minor detail.

"Shhh, I am no one, I am silence sounding"
Since silent Shhh sounds of seeping gas can clear a room
The Truth appearing heard is never heard
When a seeping Shhh sound precludes a malodorous thurd

(Couplets are easier for committee poetry)

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:57 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:16 pm
you can not know 'what', for sure?

Age, you’re ripe for discovering the beauty and wonder of ambiguities as doors to the unknown, perhaps even a bit over-ripe. Step through the door, Age, and see where it leads.

Do you purposely try to deflect, here? Or, did you really just not comprehend and understand the actual clarifying question, here?

you used the 'that' word. I am asking you to just clarify what the 'that' was in relation to and referring to. And, that was all

I thought you were asking about what, so nevermind I guess.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:31 pm I thought you were asking about what, so nevermind I guess.

So, once more, when one is asked to just clarify their claim absolutely nothing is provided.

Final truth implies no more truths.



No more truths implies many truths.



Many truths imply relative truths.



Relative truths imply illusory truths.



Illusory truths can never know absolute truth.



Absolute truth already is this knowing that cannot be known.

Now, if, as it is continuing here, that is; no one could counter nor refute my claim above here, then my claim will remain an absolute irrefutable Fact.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:01 pm Now, if, as it is continuing here, that is; no one could counter nor refute my claim above here, then my claim will remain an absolute irrefutable Fact.

"If you say so."

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:06 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:01 pm Now, if, as it is continuing here, that is; no one could counter nor refute my claim above here, then my claim will remain an absolute irrefutable Fact.

"If you say so."

There's no if, it was absolutely said.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:06 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:01 pm Now, if, as it is continuing here, that is; no one could counter nor refute my claim above here, then my claim will remain an absolute irrefutable Fact.

"If you say so."

Obviously, if what is being said and/or written could not be countered nor refuted, then 'it' shall remain an absolute irrefutable Fact, or in other words, 'the Truth'.

And, this is whether I say so, or not.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:09 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:06 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:01 pm Now, if, as it is continuing here, that is; no one could counter nor refute my claim above here, then my claim will remain an absolute irrefutable Fact.

"If you say so."

There's no if, it was absolutely said.

Correction: You say so.

(Hmmm. After a road test it obviously doesn't have the same meaning. "If" implies that Age must say it, for it to be true. Without that causational modifier, one may as well say the sky is blue because for it to be true, the sky need not be blue. When he asks, and there's a high probability he will although nothing is certain except I Am, you can tell Age what "it" means in this context.)

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:21 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:09 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:06 pm
"If you say so."

There's no if, it was absolutely said.

Correction: You say so.

(Hmmm. After a road test it obviously doesn't have the same meaning. "If" implies that Age must say it, for it to be true.)

Why would you, or any one, imply this?

It is beyond ridiculous, well to me anyway, to even just imagine or think, let alone to presume or believe, that i must say some thing, for 'that thing' to be true.

Once again, you appear to have completely and utterly misinterpreted and/or misunderstood what I have been saying, and meaning, here, exactly..

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:21 pm (Without that causational modifier, one may as well say the sky is blue because for it to be true, the sky need not be blue. When he asks, and there's a high probability he will although nothing is certain except I Am, you can tell Age what "it" means in this context.)

But who is going to tell you what 'it' means in 'the' context, and, for that matter, who is going to inform you ofwhat 'the context' even is, exactly?

you have, obviously, MISSED 'the context' from the outset.