One nation is a solution for war

[henry quirk]

Then you have to live in a controlled area to make sure you don't harm others. Rehabilitation may be useful! If not you have to live in a controlled area.

Gotta punish wrong-think and wrong-acts, even if the wrong is just a no, I won't.

Oh, brave new world that has such people in it!

[bahman]

Then you have to live in a controlled area to make sure you don't harm others. Rehabilitation may be useful! If not you have to live in a controlled area.

Gotta punish wrong-think and wrong-acts, even if the wrong is just a no, I won't.

Oh, brave new world that has such people in it!

The wrong act is the result of wrong thought. People are not held responsible for having wrong thoughts but for the wrong acts. Some may resist the wrong thought and some fail. Punishing is not a solution for people who fail to resist a wrong thought.

[Walker]

The idea is that within one nation scenario, there will be no war, and no need to spend huge amounts of money on warfare, ... People could be gathered under one flag, social Democracy government, and live and flourish. All the problems you mentioned can be resolved once people are well-educated enough.

- The thread subject title has already been formalized into a working philosophy that defines conditions for one nation, and that has already been proven, and the philosophy is …

- One nation under God, with liberty and justice, for all.

- The evidence of the proof is that such a nation deters war through strength.

- The rational and empirical implication of this evidence is that when a nation is not under God, and when a nation cannot have liberty and justice for all (as is currently being denied via Trump’s persecution), then it will be divided.

- Lincoln knew of this and so allowed the defeated Confederate enemy what dignity he could officially offer in the name of unity of the country into one, and his first agent for that offering was Chamberland, a warrior-person who embodied The Enlightenment, and was well-educated.

- Compare that to Gaza/Israel ... Lincoln demanded unconditional surrender, and now B.N. demands unconditional surrender, and like Lincoln B.N. is pretty well educated, not to mention naturally savvy as objectively measured.

- However, the largesse of Lincoln had its practical limitations, thus the drafting of the fourteeth amendment, which enumerated which public offices that a confederate revolutionary could not hold in the united government of the USA.

[bahman]

The idea is that within one nation scenario, there will be no war, and no need to spend huge amounts of money on warfare, ... People could be gathered under one flag, social Democracy government, and live and flourish. All the problems you mentioned can be resolved once people are well-educated enough.

- The thread subject title has already been formalized into a working philosophy that defines conditions for one nation, and that has already been proven, and the philosophy is …

Yes.

- One nation under God, with liberty and justice, for all.

I don't think that we need God.

- The evidence of the proof is that such a nation deters war through strength.

Sure.

- The rational and empirical implication of this evidence is that when a nation is not under God, and when a nation cannot have liberty and justice for all (as is currently being denied via Trump’s persecution), then it will be divided.

Again, I don't think that we need God to get united.

- Lincoln knew of this and so allowed the defeated Confederate enemy what dignity he could officially offer in the name of unity of the country into one, and his first agent for that offering was Chamberland, a warrior-person who embodied The Enlightenment, and was well-educated.

- Compare that to Gaza/Israel ... Lincoln demanded unconditional surrender, and now B.N. demands unconditional surrender, and like Lincoln B.N. is pretty well educated, not to mention naturally savvy as objectively measured.

- However, the largesse of Lincoln had its practical limitations, thus the drafting of the fourteeth amendment, which enumerated which public offices that a confederate revolutionary could not hold in the united government of the USA.

Good to know these.

[Age]

Do you see war within families in civilized nations?

Maybe not war where planes are flown over each other's heads and bombs are dropped on them, but surely even you have observed conflict, bickering, arguing, fighting, and/or even killing within families, which can be classed as a form of 'war', and maybe even observed this more so in the so-called and Wrongly named 'civilized nations', correct "bahman"?

Do you see such a conflict in civilized nations like Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the like?

1. Yes I see conflict in those named nations/countries/parcels of land on earth.

2. What you might call 'civilized' in the days when this is being written is certainly not considered 'civilized', to others.

Or, have you never observed nor experienced any of this at all?

Also, the forcing of people with completely opposing 'beliefs' to live, together, under the banner of 'one nation' could cause and/or create even more conflict, which might end up in more warring than before.

I am not talking about forcing.

Well how else to get people to live under the banner of 'one nation'?

I am talking about teaching people about one nation and its profits so they naturally agree and live within one flag.

Of course when greed and selfishness has been extinguished from adult human beings, and they are again living without these things and have learned how to live in peace and harmony with one another, then, and only then, all of humankind can start living together, as One, in a Truly voluntarily agreed upon and accepted 'Self-governing society', or a 'One nation earth'. Until then informing of, or teaching about, 'profits' will only lead adults to, individually, want a share, or a piece, of 'those profits'. Which is and was, obviously, a huge part of the reason why you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, grew up and are 'now' causing and creating such a Truly conflicted, war-torn, pollution-riddled, and very stressful 'world' and existence.

By the way what do you consider is the best 'one flag' to live within?

And, how many other people will actually 'naturally agree with' and 'want to live' within 'that one flag'?

[Age]

I don't think that the centralization of power will be convenient for a cruel government. Why do you think so?

Cruel governments generally want and try to consolidate power. There are problems when a government is far from the people it can control also. There would be even more layers between the center of power and the constituants. They are more abstract to the leaders.
I am not saying it must happen, but I consider it a real possibility.

That wouldn't happen if people are well educated enough.

Well centralized governments, who want to have control and power over others, will, obviously, not want to educate their citizens so that the citizens could take over the control, and thus start up another centralized government.

After all it has been proved numerous times already throughout human history that people who are greedy and selfish are the only ones who want to have a centralized power, over others.

What other purpose would there be for wanting centralized power or for the centralization of power, over others, if not to control them and take from them.

Now, of course there is absolutely nothing Wrong at all with 'centralized power' within "ones" own 'self', where 'one' has and is controlling their 'own power' by not abusing absolutely any thing, in Life.

Which fits in perfectly with a 'One nation earth' where adults are 'self-disciplined' and children are never 'disciplined' ever. Where this society or way of living came about was from adults learning how to just teach children what is Right, and Wrong, in Life, instead of 'disciplining' children with and through judgments, punishments, humiliation, and/or ridicule.

But you people in the days when this is being written are still some way off this much better 'world' and way of living.

It also simplifies the work for powerful entities like international corporations. They can focus all their manipulation, bribery etc on one entity. You also have one entity that can declare a state of emergency - yes, it wouldn't be an inter-country war, being that those are gone, but alien invasion, nanotech breach, ai breach, pandemic all could be declared so that martial laws can be declared, with measures to appropriate media. Much harder to do when news comes from many countries, for example. One country means that there are no dissidents in exile speaking up about the problems of their government. There's no one going to the media and saying here's what's really happening in my country despite my country's now government controlled or inhibited media's version.

The idea is that within one nation scenario, there will be no war, and no need to spend huge amounts of money on warfare, ... [/quote]

A Great, and even a perfect, image, idea, and/or vision to have and to be hold. Now, do you know of, and have you designed, 'the plan' to make this come about and bring it to fruition?

Just imagine a 'One nation earth' where all the money spend on weapons and warring was put into the heath and the education for absolutely every one, equally, and how much better of 'a world', and way of living that would be.

Better still imagine the 'One nation earth' where there is no adult wanting money, is happy with what they have, and thus only goes to do what will benefit each other in someway, on the whole, which, by the way, is not 'now' classed nor called 'work'. It is a society/nation where people do not want to 'work', to make money, five, six, seven days a week for 'their bosses/owners', nor even for themselves. But they do not want to just sit around doing absolutely nothing seven days a week neither. It is 'a world' where people, naturally, want to help and support each other, for the betterment of 'the world', itself, which ultimately works out to be what is the actual best thing for their children. And, as a parent is not wanting the best for children, themselves, not what 'life', itself, is all about?

People could be gathered under one flag, social Democracy government, and live and flourish. All the problems you mentioned can be resolved once people are well-educated enough.

But, essentially the only real thing you adult human beings are teaching and educating children in, in the days when this is being written, is to desire after and want 'more money'.

Every so-called 'demo(n)cratic' government, with centralized power, over others, wants 'more money', and controls 'its citizens' in ways to obtain 'more money' from them, through taxes and/or fines.

you adults human beings for centuries upon centuries, hitherto when this is being written, have been influenced, indoctrinated, 'educated', and conditioned so much that 'money is needed in Life' that some of you even believe, absolutely, that you cannot live without money. Which is, exactly, where 'centralized governments' who have gained power and control over you 'want you', EXACTLY.

As soon as you individual adult human beings voluntarily remove the indoctrinated Wrong and False 'belief' that money is necessary to life and living, and have removed the ill-gotten induced 'want' of 'more money', then the absolute freedom and liberation, which is released, from within, is like a a shot of the Truly natural release of endorphins or any of the other pleasure feeling natural chemicals that come about with joyful or happy experiences, and/or which come along with the enlightenment of a problem or of a mystery or an epiphany. revelation. or self-inspired realization/Knowing.

Some, however, might be thinking here, 'But I have to pay the bills'. But, remember, if others were also not greedy and not selfish neither, thus not 'wanting money', itself, also, then all of those bills that you think or believe you 'have to pay' would be reduced absolutely considerably.

Imagine if the monetary richest people in the world did not want 'more money' or even just 'money', then how much the 'goods and services' you do pay, from them, would really actually 'cost'.

For each one human being with a billion or even a million dollars, they had to have taken that money from someone else, which is how many times was parts of that money continually being taken from 'you'?

That money is also being deprived from 'another', which to the most of the posters and readers here, in the days when this is being written, is not necessarily 'you' at all, but is obviously a human being, somewhere.

[Age]

That wouldn't happen if people are well educated enough.

That's a big if. It wouldn't happen if people are nice, either.

What we need to prevent a cruel government from taking place is proper education.

Look at what the word 'education' once meant. Once human beings go back to that kind of 'education', only, then what you are dreaming of here can come about, and actually did come about, after, when this is being written.

If no one supports any government it would collapse.

True. But have you forgotten that it is you who is arguing for and suggesting that 'we' should support a (type of) governance/government.

The idea is that within one nation scenario, there will be no war, and no need to spend huge amounts of money on warfare, ... People could be gathered under one flag, Social Democracy government, and live and flourish. All the problems you mentioned can be resolved once people are well-educated enough.

Maybe. Who educates them?

The government, other people, ...

Now we come exactly back to, As soon as there is any sort of want or centralization of power, over another, then conflict will always prevail.

And, obviously all conflict can lead to warring and killing, which is the very thing you are talking about in getting rid of.

Centralized, or want, of power, over another, and the actual 'conflict' that this causes and creates can be seen and observed in absolutely any individual human family home up to the one and only individual human family home called earth.

Just look at the belief and/or presumption that parents have 'power over children' and at 'the conflict' that this causes and creates when applied. 'This conflict' can be very clearly seen and observed in and from parent/child relations, to government/citizens relations, and up to government/government relations.

Who determines the curriculum?

The parlement.

Which is, exactly, what has caused and created a fair amount of 'the conflicts' in 'the world', in the days when this is being written, and in countless centuries prior.

How do we keep the power players from not skewing things?

Judiciary.

you keep talking about the very things that are being applied and happening and occurring 'today', when this is being written, and were occurring for centuries hitherto when this is being written.

Who makes sure the press is free?

People.

Are you people doing a 'good job' of that 'now', when this is being written?

you adult human beings have gotten to a stage that just about all of you are now claiming and accusing the "others" of spreading 'fake news'.

Which, by the way, the power of just 'one', and the ability to indoctrinate distorted views, beliefs, and presumptions in many people, which in turn can induce further very False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect perceptions of 'the world' is something that could be very clearly seen and observed among adult human beings, back in the days when this was being written. For example, one just has to look within and throughout 'this forum' for this to be clearly seen, observed, and proved True.

How do nations, all around the world, educate everyone well enough?

That could be the duty of the UN to guide nations in giving their people proper education before unification.

Have you been so-called 'properly educated' "bahman"?

If yes, then how do you know, exactly?

But, if no, then how do you know what you are proposing here would even work? Obviously, your answers here are aligning, exactly, with what is already happening and occurring here, in the days when this is being written, where 'conflict' is existing and prevailing, which is what you are wanting to stop, and remove, here right?

Also, who is 'the one', in the beginning, who has already obtained the so-called 'proper education' to be able to teach and pass on the so-called 'proper education'?

Obviously, 'the education' that you adult human beings were taught, and thus have learned, and which you are now passing on and teaching among yourselves and to children has not been working for millennia, hitherto when this is being written anyway.

Who decides that before there is one world government?

The UN.

Who exactly, which nations, are involved in, thus is involved with, the creation of the 'united nations'? Can, for example, "north korea" and the leader/s there be involved in any way, shape, nor form?

If no, then why not?

Again, I don't rule this out as possible, but I think all sorts of things have to change radically before we avoid a one world tyranny.

No worry, many nations around the world are not tyrannical which means that people have the proper education so it is very unlikely that a tyranny will take place after the unification.

So, to you "bahman" there is not one nation in 'the world', today, when this is being written, which does not seek to obtain 'more and more money' from its citizens, in order to pay the so-called "leaders" 'more and more money' every year? Which, to me, is just one of many forms of 'tyranny'.

[Age]

Even if there is a conflict of interest among people it never leads to mass murder of individuals as we saw in all wars.

the question of scale merely depends on the weapon used... ask your local jihadist...

-Imp

Jihadist!? Proper education is the solution to them.

What about the "americans" and their love of 'more and more guns and weapons' and their apparent love of killing and murdering themselves, on mass. Is so-called 'proper education' 'the solution' to them as well?

But, and also, you believe and would claim that "america" is not a tyrannical nation, 'now', and thus which would mean that, to you, that nation does not now need what you call 'proper education' neither, right?

[Age]

What we need to prevent a cruel government from taking place is proper education. If no one supports any government it would collapse.

To get everyone a proper education requires a good government.

But to get a so-called 'good government', what is needed is support from so-called 'good people'. BUT, if 'good people' can only come from a 'good government' and through and by 'their' 'proper education', then what is left is a cycle of an absolute impossibility. Which "bahman" appears to not be able to comprehend and understand here.

Also, notice how the people, back in the days when this was being written, talk of 'governments' as though they were a thing of and to themselves. It appears as those posters here some how were thinking or believing that 'governments' are only 'a thing' made up of people/adult human beings and are solely of people/adult human beings, alone.

It was like when people, back then, would say, 'But I/we cannot do anything because that is how 'the system' works'. They spoke as though 'the system' existed on its own and/or was beyond the 'reach of' human beings without every actually just considering and contemplating the irrefutable Fact 'the system' was written and run/controlled by human beings.

And a good education is not the norm in any country in the world. Schools do not manage to teach people how to question authority for example, or to understand corporate control of media or how even consensus experts can be wrong. And there's a reason for this: schools are designed to socialize and control their students. So, there daily goals go directly against wise and strong citizenry.

Very good points and observation here.

The way so-called 'education' worked in the days when this was/is being written goes absolutely against what the word 'educate' once meant. Which was; 'To bring out', as in, 'To bring out 'the potential' from within one'.

Whereas, the so-called 'education', in the days when this was/is being written, is/was to 'instill', 'indoctrinate', 'influence', 'condition', and/or 'persuade' one to only look at and see some things', and think about things in only some particular way/s.

The government, other people, ...

The governments aren't particularly good at this now. I mean, sure we can imagine a benevolent government and a single nation with a great education system. But then, we could imagine that with many nations. If most nations focuses on finding good energy sources that do not require specific natural resources, well, there wouldn't be a need for war.

But this is all just imagination.

Which is not necessarily a bad nor Wrong thing at all.

After all it was from imagination, in the beginning, which has caused and created absolutely every human being made things, and 'creature comfort'.

It is imagination, with planning, designing, building, and believing that absolutely every thing can be, and will be, created. For example, exactly like the Truly peaceful and harmonious world like the One, [One nation earth'], is like, and IS.

Who determines the curricd

And they are independent of corporations and ruling elites...how?

How do we keep the power players from not skewing things?

Judiciary.

It's not working now in the large democracies. In fact corporate control of its own oversight and government has been getting worse. You don't need external enemies for this.

Who makes sure the press is free?

People.

Well, it all sounds dreamy.

How do nations, all around the world, educate everyone well enough?

That could be the duty of the UN to guide nations in giving their people proper education before unification.

Well, either they are already a world government or few will listen.

Who decides that before there is one world government?

The UN.

If they decide, then they are the world government. But they're not.

No worry, many nations around the world are not tyrannical which means that people have the proper education so it is very unlikely that a tyranny will take place after the unification.

see above. Most nations cannot manage to teach people to not be affected by propaganda, advertising and the most simplistic rhetorical tricks.

And this is because, through the so-called 'education system', in the days when this is being written and in days long gone, these people back then were consisted mostly of propaganda, advertising, and the very simplest and convincing rhetorical tricks that they, themselves, had not even consciously noticed just how much they had been 'tricked', 'fooled', and 'deceived'.

But this was the 'beauty' of being indoctrinated 'unconsciously' of and with False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect knowledge, and beliefs. These things also get passed on, down, from generations to generations, also unconsciously and thus completely freely and without absolutely any awareness going on at all here.

So-called 'nations' do not just manage to not teach people how to not be affected by propaganda, et cetera, 'nations' 'teach' people to not even recognize that they, themselves, are actually continually being affected by propaganda, advertising, and rhetorical tricks. This is because it is so-called 'nations', or better worded, the "leaders", themselves, the already and continually affected people, who are affecting, continually, 'the people', that is; 'you'.

What this means is the "leaders" are only teaching what 'they', themselves, with what 'they' have been 'affected' with, and by.

What they think they are teaching is right, is actually Wrong, and Incorrect, and this applies to absolutely every and all "leader/s" of absolutely every nation, society, country, province, state, area, individual home, parent and adult.

That is; absolutely every one of you adult human beings in the days when this is being written is doing what is Wrong, unknowingly, and thus by doing so is teaching what is Wrong "others", children, and following generations, again, unknowingly. But worse, doing so on and with the False belief, and pretence, that what you are doing is right and/or good, and even more worse while trying to 'justify' some of that Wrong doing/behavior as being actually right and/or good.

But, this is all perfectly understandable considering 'the way' you have all been infiltrated and inflicted with completely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect beliefs and pre-assumptions.

[Age]

Well, yes, there will be a conflict of interest but that does not lead to mass murder of individuals as we saw in all wars.

Social Democracy.

What is about social democracy and all people in one nation that precludes the mass murder of war?

That is proper education that precludes the mass murder of individuals in a war. Social Democracy is my favorite form of government for many reasons.

Here we can, further, clearly see what this one's pre-existing beliefs and assumptions are/were all along, which has caused it to say and claim the things that it has here. Having pre-existing beliefs and/or presumptions, which are based on nothing more than 'favoritism' or any thing else, besides actual proof, helps in explaining how and why this one, and others, are not been able to back up and support, sufficiently, their previously obtained and still strongly held onto 'favorite' or 'the way things should be' view/s. Which they also belief should be applied to absolutely every one else.

Which is just another form of trying to 'centralize power', over 'another'.

Which, as I have been saying and claiming here, will cause and create 'conflict', and which has just been proved irrefutably True here, once again through these writings. And, not just throughout all of this forum but also and even more so within just this very specific thread alone.

[Age]

What is about social democracy and all people in one nation that precludes the mass murder of war?

That is proper education that precludes the mass murder of individuals in a war. Social Democracy is my favorite form of government for many reasons.

What constitutes proper education?

*Who administers it?

*Who pays for it?




*put these on the backburner...let's focus on the first, What constitutes proper education?

Obviously, an education that one agrees with and accepts as being a 'proper education'.

[Age]

What we need to prevent a cruel government from taking place is proper education. If no one supports any government it would collapse.

To get everyone a proper education requires a good government. And a good education is not the norm in any country in the world. Schools do not manage to teach people how to question authority for example, or to understand corporate control of media or how even consensus experts can be wrong. And there's a reason for this: schools are designed to socialize and control their students. So, there daily goals go directly against wise and strong citizenry.

I said proper education instead of normal education which we see around the world.

The government, other people, ...

The governments aren't particularly good at this now. I mean, sure we can imagine a benevolent government and a single nation with a great education system. But then, we could imagine that with many nations.

If a single nation with a great education system is imaginable then it is achievable as well.

Very, very True.

If most nations focuses on finding good energy sources that do not require specific natural resources, well, there wouldn't be a need for war.

It is not the problem of energy only, the natural resource is not distributed evenly.

This is what could have been inferred from what was said, well from my perspective anyway. And, please Correct me if I am Wrong here "iwannaplato".

But this is all just imagination.

All forms of the governments were merely an imagination in one place but they are real now.

Who determines the curriculum?

The parlement.

And they are independent of corporations and ruling elites...how?

That is people who choose the member of the parlement.

How do we keep the power players from not skewing things?

Judiciary.

It's not working now in the large democracies. In fact corporate control of its own oversight and government has been getting worse. You don't need external enemies for this.

We need an independent judiciary system.

Independent of and from 'what', exactly?

Obviously the only thing 'skewing' things here, and thus making things worse, is 'human thinking'. So, how could a 'judiciary system' made up or made by human beings, and thus human thought, be independent of 'human thought'?

Oh, and by the way, there is an Answer, and thus Solution here.

Who makes sure the press is free?

People.

Well, it all sounds dreamy.

No really.

How do nations, all around the world, educate everyone well enough?

That could be the duty of the UN to guide nations in giving their people proper education before unification.

Well, either they are already a world government or few will listen.

Well, the discussion must start from somewhere otherwise the ideas never comes true.

If you are Truly interested in have a discussion, which will make and create 'this idea' in Reality, then I am more than willing, wanting, prepared, and able to.

Who decides that before there is one world government?

The UN.

If they decide, then they are the world government. But they're not.

Who knows, maybe they will, when the idea is developed well enough and spreaded large enough.

What 'idea'?

The 'idea' of a 'one nation'?

If you could add some more to 'the idea' here, this could and would help and speed things along here.

[Age]

That is proper education that precludes the mass murder of individuals in a war. Social Democracy is my favorite form of government for many reasons.

What constitutes proper education?

Proper education is a sort of education that not only teaches the students, physics, chemistry, and the like but also teaches them to have critical thinking, be aware of their rights, ...

But there is no none 'self-governance' that would teach 'another' that they 'have rights', as every other 'centralized government' wants to have power and control over 'others'. And, to keep it 'this way' 'the people' have to be taught that they do not have some 'rights' as 'the government' is the one 'in control' and thus has the 'power' 'over them'.

*Who administers it?

The government.

*Who pays for it?

People through proper tax payment.

Absolutely every government on earth, in the days when this is being written, has a 'proper tax payment system'.

And how I know this, for sure, is by just asking each and every one of 'them'.

[henry quirk]

So, let's recap...

You feel a world united under one government, one State (preferably a socialist democratic one), will stop mass killing (war). In such a united world, all men would be properly educated (en-virtued) by the State. Dissent would be allowed, but the truly unruly (anyone who takes a dim view of the State as educator and oversight and end-all, be-all) would be sequestered away on reservations (for everyone's safety and the State's peace of mind).

Is this a decent summary of your view?

[Age]

Proper education is a sort of education that not only teaches the students, physics, chemistry, and the like but also teaches them to have critical thinking, be aware of their rights, ...



The government.



People through proper tax payment.

The government teaches the population, controls the content, and the population pays for it?

Yes.

And any complaints against such a system are routed to, and settled by, the government?

By the government and people.

'The government' is 'people'.

There is room for discussion always. [/quopte]

People vote people/governments 'in', to make rule and laws, and decide on the punishments for breaking such rules and laws. there is no room for discussion of what has already been 'set'. As, again, you people vote 'in' other people to do your 'thinking' for you. So, essentially, you have given up any 'right' to join in in any discussion here.

We need to convince people to accept this rather than force them.

If you need to convince a human being of any thing, then I would check to see if what is claimed to be 'needed to be convinced' to others is actually really True, good, and Right for all people. See, people do not need to be 'convinced' of what is already good, Right, and True. They just need to be shown and explained what is good, Right, and true in a Truly logically sound and reasoned way.

People do not want to be 'convinced' of anything. They just want to be shown what is True, Right, and good. Also, people will accept, naturally and voluntarily, things that can be shown to be irrefutably True, Right, and/or good when they have been prepared to and are ready to. Trying to 'convince' people of things is, and was, really just a waste of time, and effort.

Reminds me of this bit of science fiction by Alistair Young...

Equality Concord

The Equality Concord and its dozen worlds share the dubious distinction of being the galaxy’s only genuinely functional, non-corrupt, decent-standard-of-living-enabled, etc., communist state.

(As opposed to genuinely non-functional communist states, like the former People’s State of Bantral.)

That’s because the Concord’s founders recognized the fundamental problem of Real True Communism requiring a whole set of instincts and drives and incentives and desires that are not commonly found among sophonts as nature made them. So they studied the gentle art of sophotechnology, and they built themselves some nice bionic implants to fix that problem, and create the perfect collectivist people for their perfect collectivist utopia. And then, and this is the important bit, they avoided the classic trap by applying the implants to themselves before applying them to anyone else.

It works. It may not be the most innovative of regimes, or the wealthiest, or up there on whatever other metric you choose to apply, but it does work, and self-perpetuates quite nicely.

Pity about that whole “free will” thing, but you can’t make an omelette, right?

External-policy-wise, it’s quite active both in a missionary sense (for itself) and in general do-goodery to burnish its galactopolitical image. (Both of these tend to work mostly on the desperate of one kind or another; the mainstream still thinks they’re creepy as hell.)

They do have a strong defensive military, but avoid using it in most offensive roles – probably because its collective intelligence knows that if there was even a slight suggestion that they were expanding by forcible implantation, they’d be on the wrong end of a multilateral fleet before you could say hegemonizing swarm.

I read the story a couple of times but I didn't get what is your purpose for mentioning such a story.

Me, I prefer to live here...

Rim Free Zone

The Rim Free Zone isn’t, technically, a polity. It is, however, 49 worlds scattered through the rimward end of the Shadow Systems, the biggest bloc in that location, and so it has to be called something.

It’s not a polity because it’s 49 worlds all adherent to anarchocapitalism, of one strain or another. Which strain you get depends on exactly where you are, ranging from polite and civilized as the North American Confederacy, through somewhat less reputable but still perfectly reasonable places like, say, New Hong Kong, all the way down to pits of scum and villainy like Jackson’s Whole. You pay your money – no, you literally pay your money – and you take your choice.

But they are a big and ugly enough bloc to figure into the interstellar political calculus as a Great Power because it turns out that you don’t need to be a government to be mighty troublesome for one. That, and 49 worlds full of anarchocapitalists have a lot of guns, belike.

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...you’d better be careful that you don’t commit your special crimes against people in the Free Zone once you get there. To steal a perfectly apposite quotation from Buck Godot – just because there is no law in the Rim Free Zone, that doesn’t mean there are no rules.

So, in this Brave New World of yours, where do unruly folks fit? You know some folks won't let themselves be educated or en-virtued by the State, and they won't pay for it or participate in a democratic process wherein they agree to abide to the Will of the Majority.

What happens to them?

That minority can live within the population as long as they don't harm others. They are our children at the end.