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Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:27 am
After listening to debates re Jordan Peterson, I find he is a 'weasel' and 'eel' in becoming an theistic-religion apologist.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:18 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm What's your synopsis?

Yes, I would like to know that as well. I listened to a small part of the video and I lost interest. You know, the Bible, evolution, etc. is not my take.

You and me both, brother. Though many feel that providing a one liner and a link is befitting for you to invest more than an hour in a random video of unknown quality.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm What's your synopsis?

Yes, I would like to know that as well.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm I listened to a small part of the video and I lost interest. You know, the Bible, evolution, etc. is not my take.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:42 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm What's your synopsis?

Yes, I would like to know that as well.

My synopsis regarding the OP is...never mind, it wouldn't interest you anyway. That kind of stuff/opinions about the Bible, evolution, God or no God etc ...It's not your take.

But you are welcome to pop by to tell me you're lack of interest anytime you like.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm I listened to a small part of the video and I lost interest. You know, the Bible, evolution, etc. is not my take.

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:55 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:42 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm
Yes, I would like to know that as well.

My synopsis regarding the OP is...never mind, it wouldn't interest you anyway. That kind of stuff/opinions about the Bible, evolution, God or no God etc ...It's not your take.

But you are welcome to pop by to tell me you're lack of interest anytime you like.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:20 pm I listened to a small part of the video and I lost interest. You know, the Bible, evolution, etc. is not my take.

OK, thanks.

1] a demonstrable proof of the existence of God
2] addressing the fact that down through the ages hundreds of Gods and religious/spiritual paths to immortality and salvation were/are championed...but only one of which [if any] can be the true path.
3] addressing the profoundly problematic role that dasein plays in any particular individual's belief in God and religious/spiritual faith
4] the questions that revolve around theodicy and God

iambiguous wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:09 pm Just out of curiosity, do either one of them get around to addressing these components of religious faith:

1] a demonstrable proof of the existence of God
2] addressing the fact that down through the ages hundreds of Gods and religious/spiritual paths to immortality and salvation were/are championed...but only one of which [if any] can be the true path.
3] addressing the profoundly problematic role that dasein plays in any particular individual's belief in God and religious/spiritual faith
4] the questions that revolve around theodicy and God

God and this part:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_earthquakes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... _eruptions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... l_cyclones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landslides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... ore_deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_diseases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:15 pm
God is good and evil.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:19 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:15 pm
God is good and evil.

Can an evil & good God be proven?

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:07 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:19 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:15 pm
God is good and evil.

Can an evil & good God be proven?

God in general cannot be proven or disproven. I am simply arguing against the problem of evil. If God exists and is evil then the problem of evil is resolved.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:18 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:07 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:19 pm

Can an evil & good God be proven?

God in general cannot be proven or disproven. I am simply arguing against the problem of evil. If God exists and is evil then the problem of evil is resolved.

Evil exists and can be proven to exist as a fact. Good exists and can be proven to exist as a fact.

God on the other hand is just an irrelevant idea. He’s a fictional character akin to the tooth fairy - nothing but pure make-belief.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:28 pm
I said if God exists and is evil then the problem of evil is resolved. You cannot disprove God. Can you?

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:15 pm

God is good and evil.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:22 am

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:28 pm
I said if God exists and is evil then the problem of evil is resolved. You cannot disprove God. Can you?

The proposition ( IF ) is a false dichotomy.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:22 am So why make the claim below when such a proposition of there being a God or Not, is unknowable? The dichotomy of God's existence or none-existence can only be an untestable hypothesis for the human mind.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:22 am

God is good and evil.

And yet evil and good do exist as a fact in the human mind, these facts are 100% testable.

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:11 pm
Yes, so what?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:25 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:11 pm
Yes, so what?

What's the fact that evil and good exists, got to do with an unprovable unknowable God?