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Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm Yes and if there's 0% certainty for that, then there's 0% certainty for anything.

Non-sequitur.

How certain are you that the next coin-toss would be heads?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm Yes and if there's 0% certainty for that, then there's 0% certainty for anything.

Non-sequitur.

How certain are you that the next coin-toss would be heads?

According to, you, 0% I guess. The coin-toss is something happening in the external world, so there's a roughly 100% chance that it will neither land heads nor tails, because there is no coin at all.

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:33 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm Yes and if there's 0% certainty for that, then there's 0% certainty for anything.

Non-sequitur.

How certain are you that the next coin-toss would be heads?

According to, you, 0% I guess.

According to me; or according to your misrepresentation of me?

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:33 pm The coin-toss is something happening in the external world, so there's a roughly 100% chance that it will neither land heads nor tails, because there is no coin at all.

You are so confused you don't even know which question you are answering.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:25 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:33 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:28 pm
Non-sequitur.

How certain are you that the next coin-toss would be heads?

According to, you, 0% I guess.

According to me; or according to your misrepresentation of me?

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:33 pm The coin-toss is something happening in the external world, so there's a roughly 100% chance that it will neither land heads nor tails, because there is no coin at all.

You are so confused you don't even know which question you are answering.

One can't correctly represent what you say anyway because you never make any sense.

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:12 pm One can't correctly represent what you say anyway because you never make any sense.

You never seem to be able to explain what confuses you. Help me help you...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:13 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:12 pm One can't correctly represent what you say anyway because you never make any sense.

You never seem to be able to explain what confuses you. Help me help you...

Explain wise one, if you're 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin, then what coin are you talking about, what's a coin, what's a coin toss?

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:19 pm Explain wise one, if you're 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin, then what coin are you talking about, what's a coin, what's a coin toss?

I am not 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin. I am 0% certain about the external world being "real".

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:20 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:19 pm Explain wise one, if you're 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin, then what coin are you talking about, what's a coin, what's a coin toss?

I am not 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin. I am 0% certain about the external world being "real".

So the coin is only in your head? How did it get there without taking it from an external world?

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:21 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:20 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:19 pm Explain wise one, if you're 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin, then what coin are you talking about, what's a coin, what's a coin toss?

I am not 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin. I am 0% certain about the external world being "real".

So the coin is only in your head? How did it get there without taking it from an external world?

The fuck?

I am not sure how you use the 0% certainty about qualities of the external world (such as its "realness") to arrive at any inferences about the coin.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:22 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:21 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:20 pm
I am not 100% uncertain about the existence of the coin. I am 0% certain about the external world being "real".

So the coin is only in your head? How did it get there without taking it from an external world?

The fuck?

I am not sure how you use the 0% certainty about qualities of the external world (such as its "realness") to arrive at any inferences about the coin.

0% certainty = whatever you think about the external world, is 100% likely to be wrong. So "coin" doesn't mean anything. Or what do you mean by 0% certainty?

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:25 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:22 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:21 pm
So the coin is only in your head? How did it get there without taking it from an external world?

The fuck?

I am not sure how you use the 0% certainty about qualities of the external world (such as its "realness") to arrive at any inferences about the coin.

0% certainty = whatever you think about the external world, is 100% likely to be wrong. So "coin" doesn't mean anything. Or what do you mean by 0% certainty?

You understand that the word "real" is an adjective, right?
You understand how adjectives work. Right?

adjective noun GRAMMAR a word naming an attribute of a noun, such as sweet, red, or technical.

Suppose the external world is "real". Which attribute of the external world is its "realness"?

I am 0% certain that the external world is "real" - because I have no evidence that the external world has an attribute such as "realness".

You don't even understand how qualia work...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:28 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:25 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:22 pm
The fuck?

I am not sure how you use the 0% certainty about qualities of the external world (such as its "realness") to arrive at any inferences about the coin.

0% certainty = whatever you think about the external world, is 100% likely to be wrong. So "coin" doesn't mean anything. Or what do you mean by 0% certainty?

You understand that the word "real" is an adjective, right?
You understand how adjectives work. Right?

adjective noun GRAMMAR a word naming an attribute of a noun, such as sweet, red, or technical.

Suppose the external world is "real". Which attribute of the external world is its "realness"?

I am 0% certain that the external world has any such attribute such as "realness" - because I have no evidence that the external world has such an attribute.

realness is not an attribute of the external world, realness is the same as the external world

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:31 pm realness is not an attribute of the external world, realness is the same as the external world

Q.E.D you don't even understand the difference between adjectives (qualities) and nouns.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:32 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:31 pm realness is not an attribute of the external world, realness is the same as the external world

Q.E.D you don't even understand the difference between adjectives (qualities) and nouns.

you don't understand that language is inherently dualistic, but reality isn't, buddy

Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:34 pm you don't understand that language is inherently dualistic, but reality isn't, buddy

Monistic, dualistic, pluralistic or otherwise would still be adjectives.

And we've already established that you don't understand how those work.