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Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:40 am
by Belinda
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:24 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:11 pm
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:45 pm
I presume that consciousness is created or enabled by the brain, and what it is conscious of is delivered to it via the brain. Beyond that, I wouldn't want to talk about its location in space. But when we say "I", or "me", we don't always mean the same thing. If you were to say, "I nearly got run over by a bus today", it wouldn't seem to be same "I" as if you were to say, "I was thinking about rainbows today", if you see what I mean. One "I" is a physical object, while the other "I" would seem to be immatereal. When you say "I", you could be referring to your shape and size, or you could be referring to your emotional feelings, and other people would understand what you meant by the context.
"I nearly got run over by a bus today", it wouldn't seem to be same "I" as if you were to say, "I was thinking about rainbows today", if you see what I mean. One "I" is a physical object, while the other "I" would seem to be immatereal.
Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same.
The same 'what', EXACTLY?
By the way, I have ALREADY answered what 'they' are the two aspects of EXACTLY, numerous times throughout this forum.
By "two aspects of the same" I might have said "two aspects of nature; the subjective and the objective, or the mental and the physical.
For instance brain (objective, physical) , and mind(subjective, mental) are two aspects of
brain-mind.
Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:13 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:40 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:24 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:11 pm
Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same.
The same 'what', EXACTLY?
By the way, I have ALREADY answered what 'they' are the two aspects of EXACTLY, numerous times throughout this forum.
By "two aspects of the same" I might have said "two aspects of nature; the subjective and the objective, or the mental and the physical.
For instance brain (objective, physical) , and mind(subjective, mental) are two aspects of
brain-mind.
You wrote;
"Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same."
So, once again, what are 'they' (the physical and the immatereal) two aspects 'of', EXACTLY?
Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:24 am
by Belinda
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:13 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:40 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:24 am
The same 'what', EXACTLY?
By the way, I have ALREADY answered what 'they' are the two aspects of EXACTLY, numerous times throughout this forum.
By "two aspects of the same" I might have said "two aspects of nature; the subjective and the objective, or the mental and the physical.
For instance brain (objective, physical) , and mind(subjective, mental) are two aspects of
brain-mind.
You wrote;
"Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same."
So, once again, what are 'they' (the physical and the immatereal) two aspects 'of', EXACTLY?
Cosmos.
Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:39 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:24 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:13 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:40 am
By "two aspects of the same" I might have said "two aspects of nature; the subjective and the objective, or the mental and the physical.
For instance brain (objective, physical) , and mind(subjective, mental) are two aspects of
brain-mind.
You wrote;
"Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same."
So, once again, what are 'they' (the physical and the immatereal) two aspects 'of', EXACTLY?
Cosmos.
And what does the 'cosmos' word mean or refer to, to you, exactly?
Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:46 am
by Belinda
Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:39 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:24 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:13 am
You wrote;
"Spinoza said they (the physical and the immatereal ) are two aspects of the same."
So, once again, what are 'they' (the physical and the immatereal) two aspects 'of', EXACTLY?
Cosmos.
And what does the 'cosmos' word mean or refer to, to you, exactly?
Cosmos is tamed chaos.
Re: Exactly Where Am I?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:09 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:46 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:39 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:24 am
Cosmos.
And what does the 'cosmos' word mean or refer to, to you, exactly?
Cosmos is tamed chaos.
So, "spinozza" was saying that the physical and the immatereal are two aspects of 'chaos', which was or has been 'tamed', correct?
Also, does 'immatereal' mean the same as 'immaterial'?
If no, then what does 'immatereal' mean or refer to, exactly?