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attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:54 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:21 pm No, I see a gov strippin' away property, or makin' property unavailable as tyranny. Not vengeance: self-defense (you don't really mean to suggest Sally has no right to defend herself from the whimsical rapist, do you?).

I honestly think Sally would be safer with a can of pepper spray.

If I knew how to give a big up thumb I would

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:57 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:54 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:21 pm No, I see a gov strippin' away property, or makin' property unavailable as tyranny. Not vengeance: self-defense (you don't really mean to suggest Sally has no right to defend herself from the whimsical rapist, do you?).

I honestly think Sally would be safer with a can of pepper spray.

If I knew how to give a big up thumb I would

Haha! I've been perplexed by that too! One night (drunk) I hit some keys on my keyboard and a smorgasbord of icons including the thumb came up, and as if I can remember what i did! - Maybe Henry could educate us?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:54 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:21 pm No, I see a gov strippin' away property, or makin' property unavailable as tyranny. Not vengeance: self-defense (you don't really mean to suggest Sally has no right to defend herself from the whimsical rapist, do you?).

I honestly think Sally would be safer with a can of pepper spray.

Sally might disagree. Seems to me, she -- not me, not you, not legislators -- gets to decide how, and with what, she defends herself.

Maybe Henry could educate us?

been tryin' to, for years, but I'm a lousy teacher
and you're all lousy students

Yeah, a rocket launcher might be better, or a nuclear missile..... Fucking yank moron.

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America has completely lost the plot, well no, it never was what it pretended to be from day one.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:30 pm America has completely lost the plot, well no, *it never was what it pretended to be from day one.

*What was it America pretended to be but never was?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:34 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:30 pm America has completely lost the plot, well no, *it never was what it pretended to be from day one.

*What was it America pretended to be but never was?

Great, for starters.

Well that place WAS GREAT, PERFECT, and HEAVEN-LIKE, well BEFORE it was STOLEN, or TAKEN BY, 'you', "others".

*And it was, OBVIOUSLY, NOT great as "america" 'pretended', but as some people liked to PRETEND that "America" was great. For example, like a past president, from the days when this was being written, who VERY MUCH PRETENDED that the "america" it knew WAS great,

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:34 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:30 pm America has completely lost the plot, well no, *it never was what it pretended to be from day one.

*What was it America pretended to be but never was?

Henry,
America has always been an imperial power and a colonizer all the while claiming to be the exact opposite, today it is a grandiose example of a power seeking world domination. America has a long history of imperialism most Americans simply do not know their own history but buy into the propaganda, as American exceptualism.

America has always been an imperial power and a colonizer

Always? Hyperbole. And -- as I say -- there's a difference between America and United States.

all the while claiming to be the exact opposite

What's the opposite of imperial power and a colonizer?

today it is a grandiose example of a power seeking world domination

This is the nature of The State, yes.

America has a long history of imperialism

Nope.

most Americans simply do not know their own history but buy into the propaganda

Well, yeah, a good number are straightjacketed by propaganda (I believe you fall into that category), but not most, no.

American exceptualism

What, to you, does the myth of American exceptionalism entail?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:12 am

Maybe Henry could educate us?

been tryin' to, for years, but I'm a lousy teacher
and you're all lousy students

Well, then...sit on this and swivel..

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:25 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:12 am

Maybe Henry could educate us?

been tryin' to, for years, but I'm a lousy teacher
and you're all lousy students

Well, then...sit on this and swivel..

get bent, nutjob

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:47 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:25 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:12 am

been tryin' to, for years, but I'm a lousy teacher
and you're all lousy students

Well, then...sit on this and swivel..

get bent, nutjob

Hang on, which one of me are you talking about wanting to bend over (presumably so you can violate one of our bottoms (that we share (most of the time)))?