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Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:06 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:02 pm
Everything you are expressing is a concept.
That's not right either. You can't literally express concepts. What I express might be correlated to concepts, though.
Not that this has jackshit to do with what I said above. It's not as if the world is solely comprised of things I express.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
by Skepdick
What concept of "rightness" are you holding as normative?
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:06 pm
You can't literally express concepts. What I express might be correlated to concepts, though.
Who gets to decide that? Hint: not you.
When I express the concept of "Medium rare fillet". What arrives on my dinner plate is precisely the concept I had in mind.
Imagine my surprise
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
What concept of "rightness" are you holding as normative?
None.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:13 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
What concept of "rightness" are you holding as normative?
None.
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "not right"?
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:16 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:12 pm
What concept of "rightness" are you holding as normative?
None.
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "not right"?
By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate. Has nothing to do with an idea of what you ought to do.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:18 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:16 pm
By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate.
What concept of "accuracy" are you holding as normative?
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:19 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:18 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:16 pm
By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate.
What concept of "accuracy" are you holding as normative?
Again, none. P is accurate if it matches what's the case. It's inaccurate if it doesn't. There's no normativity to that.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:31 pm
by Skepdick
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "inaccurate"?
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:19 pm
P is accurate if it matches what's the case. It's inaccurate if it doesn't.
What sort of concept of "matching" are you holding as normative?
Yeah there is. The mechanism by which a relationship is established between P and "the case" is normative.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:31 pm
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "inaccurate"?
By the fact that we can't literally express concepts.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:35 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm
By the fact that we can't literally express concepts.
You assume direct experience. Which means you also assume that my experience is as direct as yours.
In order to assert that what I am saying is "not the case" you are necessarily claiming that my direct experience of "the case" is wrong and yours is "right"
Fuck you?
I am literally observing myself literally expressing concepts. And you are telling me that I am not doing it.
Fuck you again?
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:38 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:35 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm
By the fact that we can't literally express concepts.
You assume direct experience. Which means you also assume that my experience is as direct as yours.
In order to assert that what I am saying is "not the case" you are necessarily claiming that my direct experience of "the case" is wrong and yours is "right"
Fuck you?
I am literally observing myself literally expressing concepts. And you are telling me that I am not doing it.
Fuck you again?
Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:38 pm
Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?
There's a universe in which they are the same, and a universe in which they are not the same.
How would we distinguish the two universes in your view?
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:46 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:38 pm
Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?
There's a universe in which they are the same, and a universe in which they are not the same.
How would we distinguish the two universes in your view?
There's only one universe.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:48 pm
by Skepdick
Then you should have absolutely no problem telling me which one is THE ONE!
The one in which you ought to pay taxes; or the one in which you ought not pay taxes.
Re: Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In [2]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:55 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:48 pm
Then you should have absolutely no problem telling me which one is THE ONE!
But I already said. What you type is not literally a concept re that issue.
And there are no facts re whether you should pay your taxes. It just depends on what you desire.