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FFS. The ONLY thing landlords care about is getting their money and not having their property destroyed. If they've had bad experiences with people with supposedly 'black names' then it's hardly 'racist' for them to avoid those names in the future.
You do realise I am a landlord, right? So I demand higher deposits (to off-set my risk) from cultural groups with bad reputations.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am FFS. The ONLY thing landlords care about is getting their money and not having their property destroyed. If they've had bad experiences of people with 'black names' then it's hardly 'racist' for them to avoid those names.
And New Zealand is a small place. Are you this ignorant of cultural Māori names also?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am You do realise that Africa is a huge continent made up of many countries don't you?
Were they/we meant to?Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:30 amYou do realise I am a landlord, right?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am FFS. The ONLY thing landlords care about is getting their money and not having their property destroyed. If they've had bad experiences of people with 'black names' then it's hardly 'racist' for them to avoid those names.
Now this would be one of the most racist comments going. So, which, so called, "cultural group", to you, has a, so called, "bad reputation"?
It is still OBVIOUSLY 'racism'. No matter whatever way you want to portray 'it'.
Also, have you still not been able to think of ANY other reason WHY there was a difference in the number of returned calls?Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:30 amAnd New Zealand is a small place. Are you this ignorant of cultural Māori names also?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am You do realise that Africa is a huge continent made up of many countries don't you?
How do you define the word 'racist'?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 amFFS. The ONLY thing landlords care about is getting their money and not having their property destroyed. If they've had bad experiences with people with supposedly 'black names' then it's hardly 'racist' for them to avoid those names in the future.
You do realise that Africa is a huge continent made up of many countries don't you?
Age, you are tedious need for precision is tedious.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:08 pmWere they/we meant to?Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:30 amYou do realise I am a landlord, right?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am FFS. The ONLY thing landlords care about is getting their money and not having their property destroyed. If they've had bad experiences of people with 'black names' then it's hardly 'racist' for them to avoid those names.
Now this would be one of the most racist comments going. So, which, so called, "cultural group", to you, has a, so called, "bad reputation"?
And, where did this "reputation" come from EXACTLY?
If you do provide your Truthful answers here, then your responses will be EXCELLENT instruments to use for ENLIGHTENING others.
By the way, how does it, logically, follow that if we already realized that you are a landlord so then you demand higher deposits, (from your own specifically selected groups of human beings)?
It is still OBVIOUSLY 'racism'. No matter whatever way you want to portray 'it'.
Also, have you still not been able to think of ANY other reason WHY there was a difference in the number of returned calls?Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:30 amAnd New Zealand is a small place. Are you this ignorant of cultural Māori names also?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am You do realise that Africa is a huge continent made up of many countries don't you?
Skepdick wrote:Your choices can harm other human beings in non-obvious ways.
henry quirk wrote:how so?
assuming' any of your story is true: there's nuthin' subtle or non-obvious there...and it seems more a mighty inconvenience than a harm (hurt feelings ain't harm [though it can seem that way])Skepdick wrote:Nameism (if you don't want to call it racism) deprives people of housing opportunities.
Sounds like your feelings were hurthenry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:30 pm assuming' any of your story is true: there's nuthin' subtle or non-obvious there...and it seems more a mighty inconvenience than a harm (hurt feelings ain't harm [though it can seem that way])
and: a property owner should apply whatever standard he likes to his rentals, even if those standards are flat-out stupid
I'd still like to hear about this non-obvious harm
hurt feelings is exactly what it is; a mighty inconvenience is exactly what it isSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:23 pmSounds like your feelings were hurthenry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:30 pm assuming' any of your story is true: there's nuthin' subtle or non-obvious there...and it seems more a mighty inconvenience than a harm (hurt feelings ain't harm [though it can seem that way])
and: a property owner should apply whatever standard he likes to his rentals, even if those standards are flat-out stupid
I'd still like to hear about this non-obvious harm
If a name carries a social premium quantified in lost time and denied opportunity, it's more than just "hurt feelings".
Thanks for telling us how we felt.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:39 pm hurt feelings is exactly what it is; a mighty inconvenience is exactly what it is
neither of you were injured
you were insulted: nuthin' more or less
I don'tSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:41 pmThanks for telling us how we felt.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:39 pm hurt feelings is exactly what it is; a mighty inconvenience is exactly what it is
neither of you were injured
you were insulted: nuthin' more or less
Why do you feel so stupid right now?
Henry. You are feeling stupid right now.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:43 pmI don'tSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:41 pmThanks for telling us how we felt.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:39 pm hurt feelings is exactly what it is; a mighty inconvenience is exactly what it is
neither of you were injured
you were insulted: nuthin' more or less
Why do you feel so stupid right now?
as I say: you, of course, are free to frame that insult as you like (as injury), but not a soul is obligated to agree
no, I feel quite intelligent: you, of course, are free to see me as stupid, but I'm not obligated to agreeSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:43 pmHenry. You are feeling stupid right now.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:43 pmI don't
as I say: you, of course, are free to frame that insult as you like (as injury), but not a soul is obligated to agree
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Why do you feel stupid?
You are welcome to frame your stupidity as you like, not not a soul is obliged to agree.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:44 pmno, I feel quite intelligent: you, of course, are free to see me as stupid, but I'm not obligated to agreeSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:43 pmHenry. You are feeling stupid right now.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:43 pm
I don't
as I say: you, of course, are free to frame that insult as you like (as injury), but not a soul is obligated to agree
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Why do you feel stupid?
I knowSkepdick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:45 pmYou are welcome to frame your stupidity as you like, not not a soul is obliged to agree.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:44 pmno, I feel quite intelligent: you, of course, are free to see me as stupid, but I'm not obligated to agree
Great. It's settled.