The Reason Why God is Good.

[Walker]

if I’m not giving value or use in my replies, then that’s not my fault..I can only share what I know...I don’t expect derogatory replies when all I’m doing is trying to be helpful..does that make sense?

I would like to point out that my response to you was totally honest (it wasn't just some kind of random name-calling). It really did seem to me that you were not in your usual state of mind, for whatever reasons -- and there are a few people on this site (yourself included) who seem to get in these manic phases of creating a bunch of topics all at once with mindless and often contradictory babble (that means something to them in the moment, apparently). And I just wanted to ask: What the fuck is that all about?

So I delved into it... maybe a little confrontationally... but I figured, I'm dealing with crazy, so why not have some fun with it. If you could have straightened it out right away, that would have been awesome. But in my experience with many such challenges on this forum, there is no "straightening out" because it REALLY doesn't make a lot of sense. It's just one story or another, customized and maintained by the individual, despite all to the contrary.

Full moon, or close to full.

[Sculptor]

All life ends in death, the waste of a lifetime of experience. The loss of everything. And without modern medicine this hopeless end is most usually very painful to the dying and to all their mourners.
This is not evidence of a GOOD god, but it is evidence of an EVIL god.

If life is hopeless suffering, then why procreate at all? If you know that life is suffering ending in painful death, then why would any knower of this knowledge then want to impose that hopelessness, suffering and painful death on another person by creating more children that will also suffer this same knowledge?

Why do you think there is still a desire to bring children into a suffering world? why does that happen?

Primal and basic urges.
It's about hormones and pleasure sites in the brain.
It's also about habit and obeying norms.

The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering. Good only exists to let us know what suffering is and that death exists as a final kick in the bollucks.

If you know you die, then why would anyone want to inflict that kick in the balls to another human being in the procreation process?

Is this rhetorical?
People do it all the time. Most don't think this through. People act, and people die.
You might as well ask why are humans destroying the planted when they know their actions could only lead to that inevitable outcome.

Don't forget, conceptual knowledge can only be understood in relation to a concepts opposite.
The Buddha is quoted as saying...What is wrong with right now unless you THINK about it?
..thinking = concepts known = knowledge.

But where is your knowledge and thinking about suffering in deep dreamless sleep? Do you not feel the bliss of your sleep upon waking from that sleep becoming aware of knowing that you still existed in a state when all your THOUGHT was absent, and how blissful you were during the absence of your THOUGHTS?

WTF?

Your real true nature is prior to thought. That's what God is, God is the blissful nondual state prior to thought which is dualist aka the play of the knowledge of opposites.

I'm glad you know the mind of god. Do you have his mobile number handy?

Do you ever ponder the idea that animals are maybe just luckier than humans in that they do not THINK to themselves I am going to die. They have no cocept of death because they do not say they are alive. They attempt to avoid death by displaying the overriding will to survive at all cost. If animals knew they were going to die then why do animals put on this instinctive will and drive to survive. They even have the intrinsic knowing to play dead as a way of asssurance in the will to survive... animals have the intrinsic fear of death when it arises, but only in the immediate moment of danger. . prior to which they live in bliss..There is no thought of death until that immediate threat is presently arising in them, which they then reject, they don't just willy nilly give in to death at the drop of a hat. Nor do amimals commit suicide, because they have no concept that there is a SELF there to kill.

God is the same one consciousness in every creature. There is only consciousness. The entire conscious universe was built and created without using any thinking agent known as a brain, else what thinking brain created the brain? ....God is not what thought thinks it is.

There is so much to explain about what is God, I could go on forever and ever about it...but this little snippet will do for now.

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It's already too long and too deluded.

[Dontaskme]

People do it all the time. Most don't think this through.

But you managed to think this through though...see below...or didn't you think this? was this your thought?

( ''The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering. Good only exists to let us know what suffering is and that death exists as a final kick in the bollucks.) ''

Did you think this?

If you did think this..then surely you can think about how that thought might impact some future person not yet born?
so back to my point, why would one inflict a world of suffering onto a new life that is already at peace who did not ask to be born?

I'm glad you know the mind of god.

Thanks, it really is the peace that passes all understanding.

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[Dontaskme]

Why do you think there is still a desire to bring children into a suffering world? why does that happen?

Primal and basic urges.
It's about hormones and pleasure sites in the brain.
It's also about habit and obeying norms.

So it's a primal urge of an obeying normal habit that is centred around pleasure sites in the brain that crave to experience evil and suffering.

Ok, so we'll just make more humans to live in this evil suffering reality because it's just a habitual and pleasurable thing to do, ok, seems like a plan.

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[Dontaskme]

I don’t mind being challenged or being asked for clarification and clarity...but the name calling and the false accusations made against my character are not necessarily helpful

Was it my comments about people who are manic and mentally imbalanced? You didn't think that was funny? Hey, I'm just having some laughs while I challenge the stupid crap that people say ... and I'm not the only one doing that here. YOU do it too, yes? So why are you acting like I'm being a big meany to point out that you were babbling? You WERE! You said you didn't care what people said... and that this wasn't serious. I truly don't wish you ill.

I don't think you are a meany at all, I just see this interaction as impersonal emotions arising in the immediate moment, one you've named ''meany''..but means nothing to me here within the grand scheme of things, since I understand that the emotion was spontaneously self arising in the moment and could never have been any different.

Each and every one of acts in the immediate moment. None of us can take back what action happens to appear, no more than spilt milk can be unspilt. It's not as if there was some kind of time machine, where actions could be undone, life is going live right now, I hope you have noticed that. There's just what pours out of this character DAM in the moment. So however or which way you there want to interpet this spilling out is frankly none of my business. It's your reactionary behavior, it's all your own projection of how you interpret information you are reading. Me, I learned not to read into that which comes from the mind too much, as I have never actually seen a mind in my entire life. I do know that thoughts come and go in who I am, and are pretty much harmless, because as of yet ..No thought has ever killed me off, touch wood.

Perhaps you should think more about what and who is this 'thing' you believe is mentally unbalanced, and if there is any room for that so called 'thing' to exist within this seamless immediate infinite flow that is life living itself, all alone, all one, eternally pure.

Dare to at peace, it really is the good place to be at when reading, I highly recommend it as one of the best selling story books ever.


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[Dontaskme]

It really did seem to me that you were not in your usual state of mind,

I have a mind?

[Sculptor]

People do it all the time. Most don't think this through.

But you managed to think this through though...see below...or didn't you think this? was this your thought?

( ''The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering. Good only exists to let us know what suffering is and that death exists as a final kick in the bollucks.) ''

Did you think this?

If you did think this..then surely you can think about how that thought might impact some future person not yet born?
so back to my point, why would one inflict a world of suffering onto a new life that is already at peace who did not ask to be born?

I'm glad you know the mind of god.

Thanks, it really is the peace that passes all understanding.

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That's what they say about megalomania.

[Sculptor]

Why do you think there is still a desire to bring children into a suffering world? why does that happen?

Primal and basic urges.
It's about hormones and pleasure sites in the brain.
It's also about habit and obeying norms.

So it's a primal urge of an obeying normal habit that is centred around pleasure sites in the brain that crave to experience evil and suffering.

Ok, so we'll just make more humans to live in this evil suffering reality because it's just a habitual and pleasurable thing to do, ok, seems like a plan.

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Dont ask me, ask your megalomania deity.

[Lacewing]

Each and every one of acts in the immediate moment. None of us can take back what action happens to appear …/… There's just what pours out of this character DAM in the moment. So however or which way you there want to interpet this spilling out is frankly none of my business.

So, are you saying that you have no responsibility or control over what pours/spills out of you? What a load of crap. That sets things up so that you can be a completely delusional nut-job, spewing randomly... and it's NOT YOU, it's the Universe... while every one else IS responsible for what they interpret it to be!

[Dontaskme]

Why do you think there is still a desire to bring children into a suffering world? why does that happen?

Primal and basic urges.
It's about hormones and pleasure sites in the brain.
It's also about habit and obeying norms.

So it's a primal urge of an obeying normal habit that is centred around pleasure sites in the brain that crave to experience evil and suffering.

Ok, so we'll just make more humans to live in this evil suffering reality because it's just a habitual and pleasurable thing to do, ok, seems like a plan.

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Dont ask me, ask your megalomania deity.

Ask yourself why your God is evil and that death is a kick in the balls. You did think that remember..

As for My God..It is peaceful and goodness.

[Dontaskme]

Each and every one of acts in the immediate moment. None of us can take back what action happens to appear …/… There's just what pours out of this character DAM in the moment. So however or which way you there want to interpet this spilling out is frankly none of my business.

So, are you saying that you have no responsibility or control over what pours/spills out of you? What a load of crap. That sets things up so that you can be a completely delusional nut-job, spewing randomly... and it's NOT YOU, it's the Universe... while every one else IS responsible for what they interpret it to be!

The story writer and the interpreter of the story are the same one. Just as the dreamer and the dream are inseparably one and the same reality including ..the idea there are many others each with their own story, as in everyone else. Every one is the same one consciousness, dreaming difference stories, a difference where there is none...for all the many stories are couched within the one consciousness.

If you are referring to the YOU that is known as the character DAM, then that character has no control over anything that happens.


Human characters are not the doers or knowers of reality, they are KNOWN and that which is KNOWN...known nothing, nor have any reality in and of themselves...except as an imagined idea..aka the dream...aka the known....which are just appearances within the one consciousness that is conscious of the dream.

Responsibilty just happens to be a part of the human story, aka knowledge known .. all arising in and out of nothingness...aka consciousness.

.. understanding, realising that reality is nondual ...equals what God is.

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[Sculptor]

So it's a primal urge of an obeying normal habit that is centred around pleasure sites in the brain that crave to experience evil and suffering.

Ok, so we'll just make more humans to live in this evil suffering reality because it's just a habitual and pleasurable thing to do, ok, seems like a plan.

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Dont ask me, ask your megalomania deity.

Ask yourself why your God is evil and that death is a kick in the balls. You did think that remember..

As for My God..It is peaceful and goodness.

No.
There is no god. The entire idea is inherently stupid.

[Dontaskme]

No.
There is no god. The entire idea is inherently stupid.

The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering.

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Dontaskme]

Dont ask me, ask your megalomania deity.

Ask yourself why your God is evil and that death is a kick in the balls. You did think that remember..

As for My God..It is peaceful and goodness.

No.
There is no god. The entire idea is inherently stupid.

There is no Sculptor. The entire idea is inherently stupid.

[Sculptor]

No.
There is no god. The entire idea is inherently stupid.

The evil god deliberately gives you goodness and good times, so that when you suffer you really know that you are suffering.

Stupid is as stupid does.

So you are saying that god is stupid.
That is a distinct possibility.