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Libertarianism is an ideology . No little baby is born a libertarian.

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:13 pm Libertarianism is an ideology . No little baby is born a libertarian.

Libertarianism is an umbrella placeholder, a codified descriptor for what is normal and natural (ownness).

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:17 pm

Libertarianism is an umbrella placeholder...

free drips unite

-Imp

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:48 pm It's unnatural to live as slave.

That's true. One reason is that slavery deprives a volitionally free person of actions based on that volition. The enslaver creates a disconnection between the slave's will and the slave's inherent ability to act on that will. The slave is forced, by the free will of another, to be a divided person, not a whole actor who lives by the best dictates of conscience.

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:13 pm Libertarianism is an ideology . No little baby is born a libertarian.

Liberty is a description of state. Libertarianism is a formal attempt to protect and maximize that state.

Thus, we might say that every baby is an informal Libertarian, in that he believes very firmly in the right of his will to be exercised. When a baby cries, it's in response to some frustration of that will.

It's certainly not because he's not old enough yet to join the Progressives.

Little babies don't believe they react. Believing is an activity that accrues through experience. Growing youths experience immersion in particular cultures.

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:18 pm Little babies don't believe they react. Believing is an activity that accrues through experience. Growing youths experience immersion in particular cultures.

Whoosh!: the sound of the point goin' right over yer head.

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:18 pm Little babies don't believe they react. Believing is an activity that accrues through experience. Growing youths experience immersion in particular cultures.

I think you mean, "Little babies don't believe -- they react," or something punctuated like that.

You may substitute "feel as if their choices are entitled to them" for "believe," if it makes you happier. It doesn't change the argument there.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:28 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:18 pm Little babies don't believe they react. Believing is an activity that accrues through experience. Growing youths experience immersion in particular cultures.

Whoosh!: the sound of the point goin' right over yer head.

Quite true. Now that the nuclear family has been abandoned as an ideal, the state now adopts the masculine responsibility for education in favor of indoctrinating the vulnerable ones as early as possible into progressive pre-indoctrination centers some reason called schools

I'll have to talk rick into making philosophy tee shirts with this slogan:

If we can't kill their bodies through abortion we'll kill their souls through indoctrination. It is just a matter of time

Nick, how would you educate youths but not indoctrinate them ?

Henry it was was up to me to make myself clear, so I will try again if I may.

Youths don't spend their lives secluded from other youths and from other social contacts many of whom they respect. These social contacts are how youths learn what to believe and trust.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:35 am how so?

When you are using a ruler to measure a table, you are also using the table to measure the ruler.

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:28 am Henry it was was up to me to make myself clear, so I will try again if I may.

Youths don't spend their lives secluded from other youths and from other social contacts many of whom they respect. These social contacts are how youths learn what to believe and trust.

still missin' the point

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:42 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:35 am how so?

When you are using a ruler to measure a table, you are also using the table to measure the ruler.

no

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:45 pm no

Yes.

My ruler is exactly 1/3rd of my table.