The Physical, Life, Consciousness, and The Human Mind—A Preface

[Dontaskme]

There is no requirement to reason ...

That's true. "Requirement," like, "good," "bad," "important" are all relative terms. If there is no end, or purpose, or goal specified, nothing is required, good, bad, or important. If one does not choose to live and succeed, nothing is required. Failure and death are the default conditions of those who refuse to reason.

There is no requirement to reason, there is no reason to be or not to be. Being just is without reason to be or not be. There is no thing being or not being.

Relative terminology is within the dream of separation, the illusory play of timeless consciousness that has to be without any reason to be. There is no relativity in consciousness, any such relative notion is within time space duality as it is known to this unknowing nondual consciousness only.

Consciousness is by default a non-conditional condition. There is no requirement for consciousness to be or not to be, for there is no thing being consciousness anyway, it just is without reason.

You cannot fail or die here.

Who on earth gave you that idea?

How can you die if you've never been born?

How can you fail when everything is obviously working perfectly fine with or without your assumed powers of reasoning?

What fails?...what dies? what is born?


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[RCSaunders]

What fails?...what dies?

You.

[Ramu]

And therein lies the mistake; there never was a "you". As in the Biographical Self is pure fiction...there is no "you" that can be pointed to. However there is All Seeing Consciousness...which is a misnomer really...You Are The Seeing AND the What's Being Seen simultaneously.

[waechter418]

Hey RC, has it ever occurred to you that the Universe is not rational...nor irrational ...?

Why would it? Only human beings have the ability to reason. To attribute human nature to the entire universe is absurd. Of course, human beings are part of the universe, so at least that part is rational.

It won't be of interest to you, but others might be interested to know, if it were possible for there to be anything about the universe that could not be identified and understood by means of reason it would not matter.

Reason is a close circuit, as it compels to reason itself and thus to invent respective reasons, triggering a division/multiplication process which often determines the search for oneself and at times the identity rites of an entire culture.

Reason becomes fatal when Homo tries to reason his existence in order to confirm his interpretations of it, because this leads to an intellectual fundamentalism which justifies its thereby growing walls with its own reasons and deprives their builders (and victims) of the possibility to question them, by declaring them as their sole meaning and purpose. Nevertheless, reason might – when driven to its own limits – lead to the cognition that the entrance to its labyrinth is its exit as well.

chapter 7 - Selfrealisation - https://waechter418.wordpress.com/

[RCSaunders]

Hey RC, has it ever occurred to you that the Universe is not rational...nor irrational ...?

Why would it? Only human beings have the ability to reason. To attribute human nature to the entire universe is absurd. Of course, human beings are part of the universe, so at least that part is rational.

It won't be of interest to you, but others might be interested to know, if it were possible for there to be anything about the universe that could not be identified and understood by means of reason it would not matter.

Reason is a close circuit, as it compels to reason itself and thus to invent respective reasons, triggering a division/multiplication process which often determines the search for oneself and at times the identity rites of an entire culture.

Reason becomes fatal when Homo tries to reason his existence in order to confirm his interpretations of it, because this leads to an intellectual fundamentalism which justifies its thereby growing walls with its own reasons and deprives their builders (and victims) of the possibility to question them, by declaring them as their sole meaning and purpose. Nevertheless, reason might – when driven to its own limits – lead to the cognition that the entrance to its labyrinth is its exit as well.

chapter 7 - Selfrealisation - https://waechter418.wordpress.com/

Just wow, or perhaps woo-woo.

Thanks, anyway!

[Dontaskme]

What fails?...what dies?

You.

The knower of the concept (''die'' ) cannot die or fail because it would have to be there in the ''death state'' to know that the known concept ''death'' has actually occured, in that the concept (''die'') was known to be a real event happening.

And it's no good just saying you can know ''die'' by seeing other people dead. The truth is, you have no experience of your own of what is death at all, you cannot even know another person is dead no more than you can know your own death...death is just a concept known, and that which is known knows nothing.

Same goes for the concept '(alive)' , you have no experience of being alive, you cannot tell yourself you are alive...''alive'' is just another concept known.

The knower of a concept is neither dead nor alive, because known concepts know nothing. The knower cannot be known by a concept it knows. All knowing is one unitary action..knowing is acausal, there's no other knower.

No thing known has ever experienced being alive or dead... because known concepts know nothing. A known concept is akin to a dream like substance arising and falling within you. The only experience is the dreaming of the dreamt character, however, there is no experience for the dream character, for it is already being experienced by the dreamer..both the dreamer and the dreamt character are the same ONE

There is no 'you' because there is no 'other' than you ..there is only ONE YOU... all 'others' are concepts in you here, not out-there.

Even the known concept (''solipsist'') is a misnomer upon this ONE YOU because this ONE YOU can never be a misnomer...to be a misnomer would imply two, which is a misnomer where there isn't one.

The only thing you are is Consciousness which embodies every conceptual known thing within itself, consciousness is the only knowing of every concept known because the known know nothing.

The only WOO WOO here is the belief that concepts known can know..Auspicious seeing is moving away from belief into the pure clarity of just being pure not-knowing consciousness, this is the entrance into non-duality. Either that or get your head constantly stuck inside the tigers mouth of concepts.



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[waechter418]

Long seeking it through others,
I was far from reaching it.
Now I go by myself,
I meet it everywhere.
It is just I myself,
And I am not itself.
Understanding this way,
I can be as I am. Chan masterTung-shan

[RCSaunders]

What fails?...what dies?

You.

The knower of the concept (''die'' ) cannot die or fail because it would have to be there in the ''death state'' to know that the known concept ''death'' has actually occured, in that the concept (''die'') was known to be a real event happening.

And it's no good just saying you can know ''die'' by seeing other people dead. The truth is, you have no experience of your own of what is death at all, you cannot even know another person is dead no more than you can know your own death...death is just a concept known, and that which is known knows nothing.

Same goes for the concept '(alive)' , you have no experience of being alive, you cannot tell yourself you are alive...''alive'' is just another concept known.

The knower of a concept is neither dead nor alive, because known concepts know nothing. The knower cannot be known by a concept it knows. All knowing is one unitary action..knowing is acausal, there's no other knower.

No thing known has ever experienced being alive or dead... because known concepts know nothing. A known concept is akin to a dream like substance arising and falling within you. The only experience is the dreaming of the dreamt character, however, there is no experience for the dream character, for it is already being experienced by the dreamer..both the dreamer and the dreamt character are the same ONE

There is no 'you' because there is no 'other' than you ..there is only ONE YOU... all 'others' are concepts in you here, not out-there.

Even the known concept (''solipsist'') is a misnomer upon this ONE YOU because this ONE YOU can never be a misnomer...to be a misnomer would imply two, which is a misnomer where there isn't one.

The only thing you are is Consciousness which embodies every conceptual known thing within itself, consciousness is the only knowing of every concept known because the known know nothing.

The only WOO WOO here is the belief that concepts known can know..Auspicious seeing is moving away from belief into the pure clarity of just being pure not-knowing consciousness, this is the entrance into non-duality. Either that or get your head constantly stuck inside the tigers mouth of concepts.

Thanks for the levity!

[waechter418]

You.

The knower of the concept (''die'' ) cannot die or fail because it would have to be there in the ''death state'' to know that the known concept ''death'' has actually occured, in that the concept (''die'') was known to be a real event happening.

And it's no good just saying you can know ''die'' by seeing other people dead. The truth is, you have no experience of your own of what is death at all, you cannot even know another person is dead no more than you can know your own death...death is just a concept known, and that which is known knows nothing.

Same goes for the concept '(alive)' , you have no experience of being alive, you cannot tell yourself you are alive...''alive'' is just another concept known.

The knower of a concept is neither dead nor alive, because known concepts know nothing. The knower cannot be known by a concept it knows. All knowing is one unitary action..knowing is acausal, there's no other knower.

No thing known has ever experienced being alive or dead... because known concepts know nothing. A known concept is akin to a dream like substance arising and falling within you. The only experience is the dreaming of the dreamt character, however, there is no experience for the dream character, for it is already being experienced by the dreamer..both the dreamer and the dreamt character are the same ONE

There is no 'you' because there is no 'other' than you ..there is only ONE YOU... all 'others' are concepts in you here, not out-there.

Even the known concept (''solipsist'') is a misnomer upon this ONE YOU because this ONE YOU can never be a misnomer...to be a misnomer would imply two, which is a misnomer where there isn't one.

The only thing you are is Consciousness which embodies every conceptual known thing within itself, consciousness is the only knowing of every concept known because the known know nothing.

The only WOO WOO here is the belief that concepts known can know..Auspicious seeing is moving away from belief into the pure clarity of just being pure not-knowing consciousness, this is the entrance into non-duality. Either that or get your head constantly stuck inside the tigers mouth of concepts.

Thanks for the levity!

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