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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:11 amAll he did was create a confusing and inconsistent mess ...

I agree with this. The use of "z" is a good example:

Realize
Realizes
Realized
Realizing
Realizm?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:11 am Btw, do you idiot yanks say 'I never meaned to hurt you' ?
You have to be wrong because it's the same f 'ing language. The only reason you have stupid spelling is because one misguided dickhead thought it would be a clever idea to try to phoneticise English. Of course he failed miserably. All he did was create a confusing and inconsistent mess and a lobotomised population.

Of course we're getting the opinion of a prejudiced idiot who can't spell in any language. She likes to hide by not naming her country. What a pathetic pretense to the human races..

Don't worry good folks. I'll figure out what country this feebleminded slop comes from. She claims she already told me (maybe in a roundabout way). Then we can have an honest discussion as to whose country is better and why, language-wise instead of depending on her prejudiced word.

PhilX

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:11 am Btw, do you idiot yanks say 'I never meaned to hurt you' ?

Infrequently, in a patronizing sense.
Such would also likely say they learnt their lesson.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:23 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:02 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:44 pm

And I've also pointed out the errors in your own claims. You obviously read as well as you spell. You only reinforce my point about yanks being the most stupid and uneducated people on the planet. Every yank I encounter is only aware of two countries: The US and 'Britain' (which incidentally is not a country). If you aren't from the US, than you must be from 'Brit' Even after telling bob and PE umpteen times that I'm not a 'Brit' they still keep calling me that. PE only recently FINALLY grasped the concept of a non'Brit' nonAmerican. I suppose that is terribly complicated.
And don't worry your tiny brain about me. Yanklish 'pidgin phonetic-failure baby-spelling/what passes for grammar over there' is taking over. Your own population has been 'dumbed-down' to the point of no return, and now it's the rest of the planet's turn. Nothing I say will change that, but I don't have to take it lying down.

Interesting. How then should others refer to people of the United Kingdom if not calling them "British"? Honest question because I'm not aware of an adjective that is used to describe residents of the United Kingdom. Or is it most appropriate to use the term "resident of the United Kingdom"? I have nothing against people from the UK. In fact I'm in admiration of many of the UK's accomplishments. Just curious what to call them. I saw this article on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ed_Kingdom which seems to say there is no agreed upon name for people of the United Kingdom. However, it does seem to indicate that there is some basis for calling people of the UK, "British".

It's Americans who confuse everything with their idiocy and ignorance. Is a Scot a 'Brit' to you? What is this 'British accent' that Americans seem to be so enamoured of? Would that be a Northern Irish accent? A Scottish accent? A Welsh accent? A middle class English accent? (I suspect it's the last one). Do English people not exist any more? You twits don't even know what 'Brit' means.

That's why I'm asking you what to call people from the UK. I assume you know the answer.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:23 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:02 am

Interesting. How then should others refer to people of the United Kingdom if not calling them "British"? Honest question because I'm not aware of an adjective that is used to describe residents of the United Kingdom. Or is it most appropriate to use the term "resident of the United Kingdom"? I have nothing against people from the UK. In fact I'm in admiration of many of the UK's accomplishments. Just curious what to call them. I saw this article on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ed_Kingdom which seems to say there is no agreed upon name for people of the United Kingdom. However, it does seem to indicate that there is some basis for calling people of the UK, "British".

It's Americans who confuse everything with their idiocy and ignorance. Is a Scot a 'Brit' to you? What is this 'British accent' that Americans seem to be so enamoured of? Would that be a Northern Irish accent? A Scottish accent? A Welsh accent? A middle class English accent? (I suspect it's the last one). Do English people not exist any more? You twits don't even know what 'Brit' means.

That's why I'm asking you what to call people from the UK. I assume you know the answer.

Bad assumption Gary as she's not from the UK.

PhilX

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:41 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Not a good comment, Impertinent. I think many of us just want to peacefully coexist. I don't think Iran poses much of an existential threat to the US if we don't act with hostility toward them. Obama acted like a relatively responsible leader toward Iran. Nuclear proliferation is, unfortunately, inevitable. Creating tension, issuing ultimatums and threats doesn't help anything. Acting out of fear is not a good.

See the pattern? Since at least the early 1990s, presidents have kicked the nuclear can way down the road, and now we're running out of road. Trump inherited this mess. Now he's dealing with it.

In a little over six months in office, he's put China on notice that he holds them largely responsible for letting this problem with their No. 1 client state fester. He's made clear to our allies in the region that he's eager to help protect them from North Korea's nuclear threats. He's twisted the arm of the U.N. Security Council to get more than a billion dollars of sanctions imposed on North Korea. And he's made extremely clear rhetorically to the deranged but crafty Kim that his nuclear threats won't be tolerated.

These aren't off-the-cuff moves, but a strategy to deal with a so-far intractable, and dangerous, problem. We'll see if it works. How will we know if it does? Our friends in the left-leaning mainstream media will stop reporting on it.

- Investor’s Business Daily
http://www.investors.com/politics/edito ... fake-news/

Americans may not realize it, but technically we remain in a state of war with North Korea that never officially ended even though the shooting did.

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:40 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:23 am

It's Americans who confuse everything with their idiocy and ignorance. Is a Scot a 'Brit' to you? What is this 'British accent' that Americans seem to be so enamoured of? Would that be a Northern Irish accent? A Scottish accent? A Welsh accent? A middle class English accent? (I suspect it's the last one). Do English people not exist any more? You twits don't even know what 'Brit' means.

That's why I'm asking you what to call people from the UK. I assume you know the answer.

Bad assumption Gary as she's not from the UK.

PhilX

PhilX, Apologies if I'm not explaining myself well. Irrespective of where she's from, she appears to be upset at the noun we use to refer to residents of the UK. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what the right answer is. I respect people from the UK and don't wish to upset them. If she knows the answer I'd love to hear it. If she doesn't, then I'm not sure why she's upset at Americans for using the wrong term. Actually I'm not sure why she's upset at Americans for using the wrong noun for referring to people of the UK, since she perpetually seems to refer to us as "yanks" which is a derogatory term for an American according to the Oxford Dictionary.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:02 am Interesting. How then should others refer to people of the United Kingdom if not calling them "British"? Honest question because I'm not aware of an adjective that is used to describe residents of the United Kingdom. Or is it most appropriate to use the term "resident of the United Kingdom"? I have nothing against people from the UK. In fact I'm in admiration of many of the UK's accomplishments. Just curious what to call them. I saw this article on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ed_Kingdom which seems to say there is no agreed upon name for people of the United Kingdom. However, it does seem to indicate that there is some basis for calling people of the UK, "British".

As a native I have to admit that I don't know. It is difficult because we live in is a sort of confederation tied together by having the same head of state. And this confederation roughly, but not exactly, corresponds to a geographical entity. My passport says that I am from the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. You could call us 'Subjects of Elizabeth II' but that would have to be qualified because she is also Queen of other countries.

The choice of words you actually use can have quite subtle connotations, for example I might choose 'English' when I deliberately meant to exclude Scotland, but there may also be a vague claim of ethnicity; so somebody of Asian origins living in London might say they were 'British' but not 'English'. But there is no hard rule, you might or might not make something of their choice, depending on the context of the discussion.

Foreigners usually say 'English' to mean 'British', so I would say that 'British' is an improvement on that. It isn't as if I have anything better to offer. Personally, I quite like all this overlapping confusion, like the weather, it gives us something to talk about.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:09 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:40 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 pm

That's why I'm asking you what to call people from the UK. I assume you know the answer.

Bad assumption Gary as she's not from the UK.

PhilX

PhilX, Apologies if I'm not explaining myself well. Irrespective of where she's from, she appears to be upset at the noun we use to refer to residents of the UK. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what the right answer is. I respect people from the UK and don't wish to upset them. If she knows the answer I'd love to hear it. If she doesn't, then I'm not sure why she's upset at Americans for using the wrong term. Actually I'm not sure why she's upset at Americans for using the wrong noun for referring to people of the UK, since she perpetually seems to refer to us as "yanks" which is a derogatory term for an American according to the Oxford Dictionary.

She will switch her position at the drop of a hat. She's prejudiced toward the US and has referred to the UK as "America's bitch." She will deliberately tell baldface lies to suit her convenience. You can not reliably get a good conversation out of her to see where she really stands.
She is very big on language which I'll go into later.

PhilX

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:14 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:11 amAll he did was create a confusing and inconsistent mess ...

I agree with this. The use of "z" is a good example:

Realize
Realizes
Realized
Realizing
Realizm?

Not to mention 'wize', 'exercize'..

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:41 pm

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:14 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:11 amAll he did was create a confusing and inconsistent mess ...

I agree with this. The use of "z" is a good example:

Realize
Realizes
Realized
Realizing
Realizm?

Not to mention 'wize', 'exercize'..

Which aren't in the dictionary so why bring them up?

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:44 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:41 pm

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:14 pm
I agree with this. The use of "z" is a good example:

Realize
Realizes
Realized
Realizing
Realizm?

Not to mention 'wize', 'exercize'..

Which aren't in the dictionary so why bring them up?

PhilX

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:47 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:44 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:41 pm

Not to mention 'wize', 'exercize'..

Which aren't in the dictionary so why bring them up?

PhilX

Just playing with my icons fool

PhilX

Londoner wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:12 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:02 am Interesting. How then should others refer to people of the United Kingdom if not calling them "British"? Honest question because I'm not aware of an adjective that is used to describe residents of the United Kingdom. Or is it most appropriate to use the term "resident of the United Kingdom"? I have nothing against people from the UK. In fact I'm in admiration of many of the UK's accomplishments. Just curious what to call them. I saw this article on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ed_Kingdom which seems to say there is no agreed upon name for people of the United Kingdom. However, it does seem to indicate that there is some basis for calling people of the UK, "British".

As a native I have to admit that I don't know. It is difficult because we live in is a sort of confederation tied together by having the same head of state. And this confederation roughly, but not exactly, corresponds to a geographical entity. My passport says that I am from the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. You could call us 'Subjects of Elizabeth II' but that would have to be qualified because she is also Queen of other countries.

The choice of words you actually use can have quite subtle connotations, for example I might choose 'English' when I deliberately meant to exclude Scotland, but there may also be a vague claim of ethnicity; so somebody of Asian origins living in London might say they were 'British' but not 'English'. But there is no hard rule, you might or might not make something of their choice, depending on the context of the discussion.

Foreigners usually say 'English' to mean 'British', so I would say that 'British' is an improvement on that. It isn't as if I have anything better to offer. Personally, I quite like all this overlapping confusion, like the weather, it gives us something to talk about.

Speaking for myself I don't "like" it but I can obviously live with the overlapping confusion. I mean we (Americans) sort of have some relatively clear signals of what to take offense to and what not to. If someone calls me an "American", I won't take offense (unless it's preceded by a pejorative adjective or said in accompaniment with unjustified derision). If someone calls me a "yank" then that seems to generally be a reliable sign that they are expressing some sort of disapproval, contempt or condescension.

I suppose it could be "healthy" to whatever degree for a community or group to have some ways of easily turning off and on the ability to take verbal offense to outsiders even if the outsiders aren't intending to be verbally offensive. Example: yesterday I call someone "British" and they are fine with it, today I call that same person "British" and they feel offended and correct me. Being too trusting I guess can be a bad thing too.

When I was growing up "diversity" was a big deal in the schools I attended and we were taught to be considerate or not be offensive, etc. to people from other nations, cultures or groups. Of course many of my fellow countrymen and women don't like the idea of "diversity" and I have plenty of trouble myself faithfully adhering to it. And there are many who profess to believe in diversity and yet treat people from other countries or groups like shit.

Overall, what some call "diversity" seems to me like a good general rule of thumb to aspire to (so long as it isn't pursued to absurd extremes). In any case, good or bad, always faithful or not, that's been a significant influence in my life. It's just a little hard to know what to say sometimes when anything can potentially be taken as offensive. But I'm sure Americans can be the same way about some things sometimes.

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:06 am Spelt is a sort of wheat. Therefore there is no such thing as 'misspelt'.

but there is a Miss Wheat

http://www.wellingtondailynews.com/arti ... /308099896

-Imp