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Never heard of em.

Fantasy genre fan are ya?

Whadja think about Morrowind and Oblivion. Greatest open world games ever made or what?

Those games were so enormous I'd get so totally overwhelmed with uncompleted quests that I'd give up tryna complete em and just travel around randomly lookin for trouble to get into.

Ever attacked an innocent citizen and got the whole goddamn empire after u? Now that's some serious shit. U can't enter any towns without the POleece comin after u.

OK lol that LGOP reminds me of Leisure Suit Larry And The Land Of The Lounge Lizards on the IBM PCjr.

That was the very first porn I ever experienced, and how I learned what a rubber was. The first thing u did was buy rubbers at that corner store. Lol holy shit I totally forgot about that game. There was a hot tub scene where u get this hot chick in there and if u say the right things, she has sex with u. Wtf dude I'm like eleven years old.

My god. There it is. The quickie mart where u buy the rubbers.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxtlHOBGlQs1 ... SZpD_7s2HO

I remember when you had unprotected sex with the hooker in Leisure Suit Larry, your underwear would start glowing in rainbow colors and you'd die, lol.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:32 am Never heard of em.

Fantasy genre fan are ya?

Whadja think about Morrowind and Oblivion. Greatest open world games ever made or what?

Those games were so enormous I'd get so totally overwhelmed with uncompleted quests that I'd give up tryna complete em and just travel around randomly lookin for trouble to get into.

Ever attacked an innocent citizen and got the whole goddamn empire after u? Now that's some serious shit. U can't enter any towns without the POleece comin after u.

My first games were Wing Commander, Myst, Return to Zork, Wolfenstein 3d.

Never played LGOP, just saw the cover art.

Okay gamers here's a demo of Shadowguns Legends on the tablet. Not sure if u can play it on something other than a phone or tablet. Free game, no ads. As far as shmups go (shoot em ups) it's great fun. 27 levels. U get quests and u can play the arena with two other players. Customizable gear with upgrades all that standard rpg stuff.

It's a bitch to play without a joystick controller tho.

p.s. that punching bag and stingray cost me almost ten bucks. There's like twenty emotes u can buy.

https://streamable.com/r939a7

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I’ve noticed that some people are exploring legal avenues when they feel game companies push addictive designs, so if you’re curious about that aspect, check out this page for some perspective

Zenita01 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:09 pm I’ve noticed that some people are exploring legal avenues when they feel game companies push addictive designs.

Which amounts to sayin' I'm a weak-willed schmuck who needs the State to protect me from myself.

A sane court would cast such a person out into the street, empty-handed.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:04 am

Zenita01 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:09 pm I’ve noticed that some people are exploring legal avenues when they feel game companies push addictive designs.

Which amounts to sayin' I'm a weak-willed schmuck who needs the State to protect me from myself.

A sane court would cast such a person out into the street, empty-handed.

What about drug companies that produce addictive drugs? Should drug companies be free and unfettered to manufacture whatever sells?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:02 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:04 am

Zenita01 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:09 pm I’ve noticed that some people are exploring legal avenues when they feel game companies push addictive designs.

Which amounts to sayin' I'm a weak-willed schmuck who needs the State to protect me from myself.

A sane court would cast such a person out into the street, empty-handed.

What about drug companies that produce addictive drugs? Should drug companies be free and unfettered to manufacture whatever sells?

From where I stand: that there is apples and Buicks.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:12 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:02 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:04 am

Which amounts to sayin' I'm a weak-willed schmuck who needs the State to protect me from myself.

A sane court would cast such a person out into the street, empty-handed.

What about drug companies that produce addictive drugs? Should drug companies be free and unfettered to manufacture whatever sells?

From where I stand: that there is apples and Buicks.

Fair enough.

drug addicts, smokers...

-Imp

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:34 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:12 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:02 am

What about drug companies that produce addictive drugs? Should drug companies be free and unfettered to manufacture whatever sells?

From where I stand: that there is apples and Buicks.

Fair enough.

Not fair enough at all, he just completely copped out of your question. Most people believe in *some* kinds of reasonable regulations on things, even if they err towards freedom in most things. If someone is saying "addictive medication is a problem and should be regulated", but saying "other addictive products are not a problem and shouldn't be regulated"... we're on a philosophy forum, it's reasonable to ask "why?" Right? Why regulate this but not that?

Maybe there's a good answer, but just 'apples and buicks' isn't it.

It’s suggested that addiction is a way to try to self-sooth. Something isn’t right. Maybe deep, subconscious wounds that one is afraid to address so they just do something to distract or numb themselves. To be fair, life could be considered a series of distractions. But some are healthier than others.

P 14. Addiction
General Factors in the Development of Addiction
1. Addictive nature of the stimulus
2. Environmental factors
3. Individual vulnerability to addiction
4. Individual behavior
5. Stressful event like a divorce or job loss
6. Weakened self-control due to negative personal states, such as fatigue, stress, anger, hunger, sleep deprivation, illness, and impaired brain function

Addictive Nature of the Stimulus
1. Intensity of effect
2. Speed of effect
3. Induction of tolerance
4. Induction of withdrawal symptoms

Safe stimuli – taking a walk, listening to calm music, reading, gardening, light conversation, home cooked meals, hobbies, socializing with friends, dancing, creative work

Safe stimuli when done in moderation – exercise, falling in love, deep meditation, intense music, sex

Dangerous stimuli – ultra-processed food, binge watching, video games, porn, nicotine, alcohol, cannabis, prescription pain killers, cocaine, meth, opioids, slot machines, high stakes gambling

Environmental Factors
1. Constant exposure to the stimulus
2. Easy availability of the stimulus
3. Stressful environment
4. Presence of triggers
5. Social encouragement

Individual Vulnerability to Addiction
Genetic Vulnerability
1. Faulty reward system
2. Faulty satiety system
3. Faulty control system

Psychological Vulnerability
1. Early life experiences
2. Age of first stimulation
3. Existing psychological condition such as anxiety and depression
4. Personality traits such as reward-seeking, impulsivity, perfectionism, and control mania

Individual behavior
1. Frequent stimulation
2. Use of the stimulus as a coping mechanism for stress and negative emotions
3. Re-stimulation due to negative after-effects such as
• Negative feelings like shame and guilt
• Withdrawal symptoms
• Tolerance, leading to escalation

Factors in Specific Addictions
1. Food: Biological and hormonal factors such as leptin, ghrelin, and insulin malfunction.
2. Exercise, work, shopping: Identification of self-worth with performance, achievement, or activity
3. Gambling: Unpredictability of reward
4. Technology and Social Media: Constant novelty
5. Pornography and sex: Artificial hyperintensity compared to natural bonding

How to Overcome Addiction
1. Admit that you have an addiction problem.
2. Decide to quit.
3. Believe in the possibility of success.
4. Set a quit date.
5. Starting on your quit date, practice total abstinence.
6. Replace your addiction with wholesome activities.
7. Manage the factors in the development of addiction.
8. Manage cravings.
9. Create a supportive physical and social environment.
10. If you relapse, analyze what happened, come up with a stronger strategy, and start again.
11. Acknowledge milestones to reinforce your motivation.
12. If these do not work, seek professional help.