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Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:55 pm
by Harbal
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Oh right. I 'wikid' him instead. Much quicker. :lol:
If you don't agree with my assessment I don't suppose you'd be good enough to not mention it, would you? :wink:

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:04 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Harbal wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Oh right. I 'wikid' him instead. Much quicker. :lol:
If you don't agree with my assessment I don't suppose you'd be good enough to not mention it, would you? :wink:
He didn't really do it for me either.
Next the 'progressives' will be insisting there's 'no such thing' as species. All life is composed of a few chemicals and everything is just atoms banging around. He's just damned prejudiced when he says dogs are better than cats!

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:06 pm
by mickthinks
Harbal wrote:
mickthinks wrote:I smell bullshit, friend Harbal.
Then go take a shower because it sounds like you've had an accident.
lol Oh I see what you did there, my friend. So witty!

Just to be clear then, the smell of bullshit is definitely coming from your direction—where your story about disagreeing with Kwame Anthony Appiah's ideas bifurcated into two; one in which you thought some of what you heard was hogwash, and the other in which you thought all of what you heard was hogwash.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:22 pm
by Harbal
mickthinks wrote: Just to be clear then, the smell of bullshit is definitely coming from your direction.
Hobbes has been throwing quite a lot of it around so it could be anywhere.
Where your story about disagreeing with
This doesn't seem to mean anything. Perhaps you could rewrite it so it makes sense, assuming that what you were trying to say did make sense.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:31 pm
by Harbal
mickthinks wrote:where your story about disagreeing with Kwame Anthony Appiah's ideas bifurcated into two; one in which you thought some of what you heard was hogwash, and the other in which you thought all of what you heard was hogwash.
Oh, now you've finished the sentence I see what you were trying to say but I don't know why you had to deliver it in instalments. No matter, you're just being pedantic so I'm not going to pay any attention.
By the way, whatever possessed you to use a word like "bifurcated"? Don't you care what people think of you?

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:46 pm
by Arising_uk
Harbal wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:So what was the hogwash?
For a start, I found the man intolerably patronising, which, I admit, did not dispose me sympathetically towards him. He obviously had his own agenda and I think the fact that he was both black and gay very much determined his point of view. ...
I think it more being black, public school and from a wealthy high-labour tradition.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:49 pm
by Arising_uk
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Next the 'progressives' will be insisting there's 'no such thing' as species. ...
How are you using "species" when applied to Man?

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:02 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Arising_uk wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Next the 'progressives' will be insisting there's 'no such thing' as species. ...
How are you using "species" when applied to Man?
:?:

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:04 am
by mickthinks
Harbal wrote:No matter, you're just being pedantic so I'm not going to pay any attention.
lol You can pretend not to pay any attention, and you can use as a pretext the fact of my being forensically incisive in my examination of your words and what they reveal. It all adds to the general impression you are giving of being unwilling to answer for yourself.

The difference between your two stories would not be significant if you had stuck to either one. They say pretty much the same thing; you disagree strongly with Kwame Anthony Appiah.

But you haven't stuck to one or the other, you have tried to elide between the two in an attempt to avoid Arising's inquiry into the detail. (Why? Perhaps because you cannot supply the detail that, if the first version of the story were true, you would be able to supply.) So here's the thing; it doesn't make a difference whether you disagree with some of what Appiah said or with everything you heard him say.

What matters is the fact that you switched from one to the other and then tried to cover it up with your transparent "I won't respond to pedantry" attempted deflection. Speaks volumes, friend.

But by all means, pretend to pay no attention.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:17 am
by Harbal
mickthinks wrote: lol You can pretend not to pay any attention, and you can use as a pretext the fact of my being forensically incisive in my examination of your words and what they reveal. It all adds to the general impression you are giving of being unwilling to answer for yourself.

The difference between your two stories would not be significant if you had stuck to either one. They say pretty much the same thing; you disagree strongly with Kwame Anthony Appiah.

But you haven't stuck to one or the other, you have tried to elide between the two in an attempt to avoid Arising's inquiry into the detail. Why? Perhaps because you cannot supply the detail that, if the first version of the story were true, you would be able to supply. So here's the thing; it doesn't make a difference whether you disagree with some of what Appiah said or with everything you heard him say.

; one in which you thought some of what you heard was hogwash, and the other in which you thought all of what you heard was hogwash.
Okay, just lock me up and throw away the key.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:21 am
by mickthinks
No, I'd rather just leave you hanging out to dry, dude.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:23 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Harbal wrote:
mickthinks wrote: lol You can pretend not to pay any attention, and you can use as a pretext the fact of my being forensically incisive in my examination of your words and what they reveal. It all adds to the general impression you are giving of being unwilling to answer for yourself.

The difference between your two stories would not be significant if you had stuck to either one. They say pretty much the same thing; you disagree strongly with Kwame Anthony Appiah.

But you haven't stuck to one or the other, you have tried to elide between the two in an attempt to avoid Arising's inquiry into the detail. Why? Perhaps because you cannot supply the detail that, if the first version of the story were true, you would be able to supply. So here's the thing; it doesn't make a difference whether you disagree with some of what Appiah said or with everything you heard him say.

; one in which you thought some of what you heard was hogwash, and the other in which you thought all of what you heard was hogwash.
Okay, just lock me up and throw away the key.
It's just mick being nitpick mick. It's what he does. He has no discernible sense of humour.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:28 am
by Arising_uk
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: :?:
You brought up the idea in relation to Appiah's thoughts about identity with respect to colour, country, creed and culture. So I was wondering how the idea of "species" applied?

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:32 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Arising_uk wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: :?:
You brought up the idea in relation to Appiah's thoughts about identity with respect to colour, country, creed and culture. So I was wondering how the idea of "species" applied?
Applied to what? Where did I mention Appiah? I was probably referring to Hobbes.

Re: What is the English way?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:38 am
by Arising_uk
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Applied to what? Where did I mention Appiah? I was probably referring to Hobbes.
"Next the 'progressives' will be insisting there's 'no such thing' as species." You were talking about your wiki of Appiah so presumably you meant him as this 'progressive'. If so I wonder why you brought up "species" as you appear to be using it to affirm the idea of 'race'?