Philosophy Now Forum

subjectivity is the place of who you are. Every love care hate and ambivalence based on understanding and perception. A nature of being appears out of your heart choices. Concepts and meanings and attractions and desires give us identity.
The question becomes why does existence produce the faculty of understanding and memory and knowing? Why should these things of being function at all? Isnt a function derived from a purpose? Why not instead brute physics and none things of being?Function is evidence of a creator.

Otherwise it is mindlessness that creates. That order comes from chaos and function developes from order by pure incidental luck. Like a can of soup suddenly sparking life because it merely fell into place with no designer intellect.
The illogical brainwashing atheist telling us we are like the soup and their is nothing more to ask but ignore reasons why of a creator and accept only physicality and cause and effect that is material only and mindless.
Yet questions of functional being remain only unanswered this atheist way.
Methinks the atheists are driving at a utilitarian society. Having servile people with no light of soul on.
The things of subjectivity are existence itself. The creators of us seeking a way of life. God is a seeker with vast knowledge whom doesnt have all the answers. Only trial and error. Perhaps god was like us trapped by the circumstances of the universe til gaining mastery of existence to a certain degree.
God an ever existing life whom always lived and one day gained a type of power to create. Consciousness interwoven with the physical and the two are cause and effect.

osgart wrote:Function is evidence of a creator. Isn't a function derived from a purpose?

There is no purpose other than to survive. A human is no different to any other animal roaming the earth.
It sounds negative to say it but the human is a predator, that's what all animals are. This body is a predator. This body is a hunter. This body is designed to survive. In a human, the freedom comes with the seeing that the experiencer isn't the body, the body is the experience. The experiencer is not a thing, yet everything is experiencing itself through an apparent body/mind mechanism. What is, is always what has been experiencing itself. Can the experiencer be separated from the experience? Life is living itself, it has no purpose, meaning or concept of itself...it just is what it is, and does what it does all by itself, there's no thing to claim it and say I'm doing this. If there were, that thing would have an awful lot to answer for. Now think of the huge enormous responsibility that would lie on that poor things shoulders. I wouldn't want to be that thing would you? There is no real entity living life, it's never been lived before, it's living for the very first time, it's going live right now in the immediate moment, there is no dress rehearsal. No thing has ever been alive before, so why now does there suddenly have to be a purpose or meaning? it didn't bother us before we were alive.

perhaps your right. But something tells me we aint the first race thats been. But you certainly have to live the unknown and live in the now.