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Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:47 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Greatest I am wrote:
Have to disagree. The Ten Commandments were presented at Mt. Sinai on two tablets by Moses
I agree.
But tell us, are they a worthy and moral set of commands given that the first 4 are showing a self-centred egotistical God?
Further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3z69YpLx0#t=100
Regards
DL
Give me an actual biblical reference that says there were Ten and I'll give up my objection, because the fact is the the condensed version of only ten is a more recent innovation.
If you care to read the bible you will see more than ten.
PS. Charlton Heston films and cartoons do not count as references.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTpKYlFVtyQ
The Bible lists 10 of them on the tablets. You can count, can't you? They're also called the Decalogue. Your petty excuses aren't even arguments. I don't care about the other Commandments not listed on the tablets.
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:03 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
The Bible lists 10 of them on the tablets. You can count, can't you? They're also called the Decalogue. Your petty excuses aren't even arguments. I don't care about the other Commandments not listed on the tablets.
PhilX
FFS. OPen the fucking book or shut the fuck up!@
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:14 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
The Bible lists 10 of them on the tablets. You can count, can't you? They're also called the Decalogue. Your petty excuses aren't even arguments. I don't care about the other Commandments not listed on the tablets.
PhilX
FFS. OPen the fucking book or shut the fuck up!@
First Village Idiot, you're not my Father so you don't tell me what the fuck to do HR. Second your ad homs only
prove you have no arguments. So go back to Philosophy Forums HR as Scott Hughes won't let you back in at OPC and try your luck there loser.
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:37 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
The Bible lists 10 of them on the tablets. You can count, can't you? They're also called the Decalogue. Your petty excuses aren't even arguments. I don't care about the other Commandments not listed on the tablets.
PhilX
FFS. OPen the fucking book or shut the fuck up!@
First Village Idiot, you're not my Father so you don't tell me what the fuck to do HR. Second your ad homs only
prove you have no arguments. So go back to Philosophy Forums HR as Scott Hughes won't let you back in at OPC and try your luck there loser.
PhilX
You've lost the argument. Get over it!
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:42 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:You've lost the argument. Get over it!
What's the matter? Can't get over losing with your weak, pathetic nonarguments? Why not take some more drugs to help you with get over it?
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:51 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
The "Decalogue" is a matter of an aid to memorisation devised much later that the death of Christ and at no point does the number ten appear to the bible with reference to commandments. The Catholics seem to have adopted this shorthand from the Jews.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BIm ... &q&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4IT ... &q&f=false
There are any number of possible ways to number the rules, ten is a convenient choice which can only be done by bringing together several of the rules in one convenient sentence of bullshit.
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:55 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Decalogue" is a matter of an aid to memorisation devised much later that the death of Christ and at no point does the number ten appear to the bible with reference to commandments. The Catholics seem to have adopted this shorthand from the Jews.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BIm ... &q&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4IT ... &q&f=false
There are any number of possible ways to number the rules, ten is a convenient choice which can only be done by bringing together several of the rules in one convenient sentence of bullshit.
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:56 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The "Decalogue" is a matter of an aid to memorisation devised much later that the death of Christ and at no point does the number ten appear to the bible with reference to commandments. The Catholics seem to have adopted this shorthand from the Jews.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BIm ... &q&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4IT ... &q&f=false
There are any number of possible ways to number the rules, ten is a convenient choice which can only be done by bringing together several of the rules in one convenient sentence of bullshit.
You lose again:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Ten-Commandments.html
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:04 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Not only are you are bore, you are a dumb as fuck stupid unenlightened bore that prides himself on his stupidity and ignorance.
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:12 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:16 am
by Necromancer
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:21 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Have you changed your position and now agree with Hobbes?
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:52 am
by Necromancer
No, absolutely not. I double your words, man! Relax!

Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:06 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Necromancer wrote:No, absolutely not. I double your words, man! Relax!

That's what I thought. So you were playing.
PhilX
Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:29 pm
by Greatest I am
Philosophy Explorer wrote:[
Morals I don't believe with the first four. My understanding is that these commandments were the main ones designed for descendants of Abraham, I suppose in part to keep them together as a people. The first four seems to bond these people to God and the latter six to define a moral relationship between those people (even the keeping of the Sabbath would be a bond as there were a number of practices designed to remind the people).
It's interesting that idols based on angels, etc. from Heaven are forbidden as it's extremely unlikely one would encounter such beings (remember within the context of the Bible).
PhilX
I agree.
Regards
DL