The Philosophy Discussion Forum

Dontaskme wrote: I really don't know what your problem is. You have a strange attitude, not only toward Bill, but me now as well.

Are you judging me? Am I not performing in the way you think is best? I think YOU have a strange attitude... and you're surprising me with this sudden plummet down to earth after all your cosmic ramblings.

Dontaskme wrote:I don't get why he's getting flack for just being himself here.

Why do you give flack to anyone in life? Don't we do it to reflect to people what they are doing? Why are you taking this to heart?

Dontaskme wrote:I could see clearly from the offset what he was saying in all his messages.

So did I. But since he chose to include all people in his one-sided assessment, what is wrong with me pointing out that this is only ONE PERSPECTIVE (his) and that he is projecting it onto others? Am I not supposed to comment on views I disagree with?

Dontaskme wrote:All of which I truly resonate with.

Maybe that's why you're defending Bill without understanding the other perspectives.

Dontaskme wrote:Bill doesn't need to explain himself to you or anyone why he expresses himself the way he does.

I don't think anyone is asking for an explanation. In many places throughout these threads, we reflect back to someone when they're not following-through or being respectful or honest or fair or whatever. That's just part of being in a relationship/group and sharing a public space. Otherwise, we'd all just be talking at each other.

Dontaskme wrote: I seriously cannot believe why people who use internet forums get so wound up over other people especially people they haven't even met or even known.....

This is similar to why I don't understand Bill's sweeping assessments that he aims at readers here.

Dontaskme wrote:have you noticed that people on this forum swear like crazy,

Yes, I'm one of them.

Dontaskme wrote:are you going to have a go at them as well, are you the PNF morality police? reality check please! why so prissy, let people be who they are. Are you part of an alliance, a click?

Now what have you just created here? And you don't even know me. Get it?

Just as Bill has a right to voice his opinions... I have a right to voice mine. The fact that he posts obscene and sick photos that have NOTHING to do with the discussions, is another issue that I have a right to comment on.

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Lacewing wrote:At what point does he take responsibility for what he bombards other people with? Do any of us need to care about the energy we create and spread around?

If it's not your energy then No. Huge lesson here.

What huge lesson? That we're not to reflect anything back to other people? Just keep our mouths shut, and let them do whatever they will with no feedback? Because if we say anything, we're stepping on them?

Dontaskme wrote:When on the sidewalk it is appropriate and very sensible to walk around the garbage, not walk in it.

You've totally side-stepped the POINT. When putting out your garbage, it is APPROPRIATE to put it in the bin. How can you tell me that my complaints about inappropriateness are not appropriate?

Dontaskme wrote:So what if he didn't ever muck up and posted lovely loving posts...

Again, you're side-stepping the point... and making this some sort of extreme injustice. It is not. Nobody is telling Bill to post loving posts. I was pointing out that he was PROJECTING. I'm telling him, "Don't speak for me. You don't know me. There is always MORE to see and consider." He always blows that off... but when I'm in the mood, I repeat it for him.

Dontaskme wrote:so he can't win.

And I'm sure he appreciates that you just validated one of his core beliefs.

Dontaskme wrote: Complainers, nothing but complainers... if you didn't have a problem in your life, you'd sure as hell invent one.

Now where are you getting this shit? Geez. Bill is being Mr. Cosmic Negativity... but apparently you relate to that, so it's the rest of us that are being complainers.

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............................Philosophy, REAL philosophy breaks the concept of ourselves; the concept of self, into nothing & everything at the same time. Into the moment & out of our minds.

It's wonderful, it's magic, it is impossible to even begin to describe and I realize that no one here has experienced it. Don't try to subdue me. It won't work.


When you think you are blocking me you are blocking yourself.






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Bill Wiltrack wrote: I realize that no one here has experienced it.

Are you saying that you have experienced "real philosophy", and no one else here has?

I'm wondering why, Bill, you are so certain (time and time again) of what other people are or aren't... and why you frame it that way? As if "you know", and other people don't. I understood what you said... and I have ongoing experience with that. I get it (and I'm sure there are others who do too). What I don't get is your ego. I would think that in grasping such things you would realize that everyone has access to the same/similar insights that you do... and (in some cases) more! What is the purpose of setting yourself and your "insights" apart?

Dontaskme wrote:.have you noticed that people on this forum swear like crazy,

Bullshit.

Dontaskme wrote:...have you noticed that people on this forum swear like crazy,

That's because it's a free enterprise forum not polluted by opinionated power complexes of upper management. If the economy worked that way without the Messianic intentions of central bankers the world as a whole would be a lot less fucked up.

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

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Wow! EXCELLENT post. Seriously.
I think I have said this before - I LOVE your perspective & your ability to articulate your thoughts.


Well done.






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Dontaskme wrote:The world is not fucked up. You are. Those bankers are extensions of you as conscious co-creators. As consciousness is all there is, it is free to express itself exactly as it sees itself; that is called free will. Intention is the rider of the will. ...

If consciousness is all there is what are these 'co-creators'?

Dontaskme wrote: The world and what you think about it is your own creation. It's the way you are - not the way it is.

''We Don’t See Things As They Are, We See Them As We Are''

So why aren't you telling Bill this about his projections?

Bill, why aren't you seeing this about your projections?

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.


I cannot live

I cannot die

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Why does it always seem to be that whenever there is good news there is always bad news straight after.

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Wow! Love that [img] Bill.

What do you think Lacewing, best [img] yet?

Arising_uk wrote:Wow! Love that [img] Bill.

What do you think Lacewing, best [img] yet?

Every time I see the simple word "[img]" instead of actually being visually bombarded with whatever is suddenly oozing out of Bill's brain... I feel immensely grateful for filtering. Random manic outbursts and visual retching seem to go hand-in-hand.

Yup! Having the choice for once is nice. Thank you once again for pointing out this function.