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Senator Al Franken admits in his book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them (2003), that he received a call from the former mayor of New York, Ed Koch, warning him not to go to his office in the World Trade Center on 9-11, using the Hebrew calendar as a reference for the date, which was September 11, 2001. Franken refers to this warning call as the "Jew call.""Al", he told me, "don't go to work on the twenty-third day of Elul." - See more at: http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15254

Pluto wrote:Senator Al Franken admits in his book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them (2003), that he received a call from the former mayor of New York, Ed Koch, warning him not to go to his office in the World Trade Center on 9-11, using the Hebrew calendar as a reference for the date, which was September 11, 2001. Franken refers to this warning call as the "Jew call.""Al", he told me, "don't go to work on the twenty-third day of Elul." - See more at: http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15254

Oh wow, such a reputable website. Actually no one gives a flying fuck about 9/11 any more. The US has more than had its petty vengeance on the innocent and the rest of the planet in general.

What's wrong with the site?

You wish no one would care about what happened on 911, but its also other dates, like London 77 and Madrid 311. For you, best not think about any of it.

Pluto wrote:What's wrong with the site?

You wish no one would care about what happened on 911, but its also other dates, like London 77 and Madrid 311. For you, best not think about any of it.

No, actually I don't give a shit. I give a shit about the fact that the US is cocking up the planet. I give a shit that Julian Assange is rotting under house arrest. What I don't give a shit about is stupid conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact.

Pluto wrote:What's wrong with the site?

You wish no one would care about what happened on 911, but its also other dates, like London 77 and Madrid 311. For you, best not think about any of it.

I just can't find any reputable information about that phone call. It doesn't even make any sense. Israel got nothing out of 9/11 anyway. I wonder what this 'Ed Koch' has to say about it.

Using the term 'conspiracy theory' shows that your thinking is either ceilinged by it, as the term was designed to do, or you are using it to protect yourself from unpleasant reality. Or even, by using the term you wish to weaken further the position of those who do not accept the official line.

Pluto wrote:Using the term 'conspiracy theory' shows that your thinking is either ceilinged by it, as the term was designed to do, or you are using it to protect yourself from unpleasant reality. Or even, by using the term you wish to weaken further the position of those who do not accept the official line.

How patronizing. I know what a 'conspiracy theory' is. You are the one who doesn't. All I'm asking for is evidence.

Yeah, I didn't mean it to be. Just wanted to communicate that the term CT is full of problems as it's a power term designed to stop thinking in its tracks, very interesting actually how two words can do that. Those who are aware of the trap-word that is CT have come up with CAD or rather Crimes Against Democracy as a way of navigating CT's stickiness while attempting to describe more adroitly the crimes that governments and their cohorts commit

Pluto wrote:Yeah, I didn't mean it to be. Just wanted to communicate that the term CT is full of problems as it's a power term designed to stop thinking in its tracks, very interesting actually how two words can do that. Those who are aware of the trap-word that is CT have come up with CAD or rather Crimes Against Democracy as a way of navigating CT's stickiness while attempting to describe more adroitly the crimes that governments and their cohorts commit

No, it's an ironic concept that 'conspiracy theorists' are too stupid to grasp. Actually you do more harm than good, because you create a smoke-screen for real conspiracies and dirty goings-on. The real conspirators who just want to go about their business unhindered must love you guys.

What are you talking about? You are turning water into mud with your words.

Pluto wrote:What are you talking about? You are turning water into mud with your words.

I rest my case. Perhaps English is your second language?

Not at all, you can't get out of it that way. But all power to you. As the film title states, 'whatever works'.