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Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:47 pm
by duszek
One can apologize without words, by a behavior showing that you are sorry.
And by trying to make up for the wrong done.
This way a man does not need to worry about losing his male vigor.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:59 pm
by artisticsolution
duszek wrote:One can apologize without words, by a behavior showing that you are sorry.
And by trying to make up for the wrong done.
This way a man does not need to worry about losing his male vigor.
The most manly thing a man can do is lose his 'male vigor'. If a person is confident, they exude 'male vigor' , they don't need to be afraid of losing it.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:04 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
artisticsolution wrote:
He's a p****, and pricks make prickish statements. He has no need to apologise for something he said and meant it.
Maybe, or maybe he knows what he said is embarrassingly stupid but he thinks that by apologising he is showing weakness. At least that is what I lean toward...some guys think an apology means they are weak...as if people won't know they they said something insulting/stupid and if they stick to their guns...maybe people will follow their fuckupedness and then they can be the founder of a new brand...as if, when you have the masses behind you, then you are no longer wrong.
That is my take on why Trump won't apologize. I think he is smart enough to know why what he said is wrong, now that he has had so many explanations and much backlash. He is probably cringing on the inside but will never show it.
I can't speak for trump. All I can say is that for me an apology implies an intention to do wrong. If I wanted to do wrong, then the apology is empty. If someone takes something the wrong way, then they can have an explanation. If they still take it the wrong way then it's probably the case that an apology is still useless.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:14 pm
by artisticsolution
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
I can't speak for trump. All I can say is that for me an apology implies an intention to do wrong. If I wanted to do wrong, then the apology is empty. If someone takes something the wrong way, then they can have an explanation. If they still take it the wrong way then it's probably the case that an apology is still useless.
I agree with you about the above, except for the first thing about an apology being an intention to do wrong. This is not always the case.
I have been in situations, where I did not have the intention to hurt another, but that I knew I would hurt them just by being me.
My mother was a control freak to the point of being paranoid if you hurt her. She conjured up all sorts of thing in her mind because of her mental illness. Simply leaving a window open , could cause her to believe you did it intentionally, in order to have an assassin come in and kill her.
This is an extreme case, but there are others, not so extreme, that I believe if you did not say 'sorry', could lead people to think you deliberately didn't take their feelings into account in an uncaring way. If a misunderstanding can be cleared up with a simple apology, why not apologize?
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:28 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
artisticsolution wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
I can't speak for trump. All I can say is that for me an apology implies an intention to do wrong. If I wanted to do wrong, then the apology is empty. If someone takes something the wrong way, then they can have an explanation. If they still take it the wrong way then it's probably the case that an apology is still useless.
I agree with you about the above, except for the first thing about an apology being an intention to do wrong. This is not always the case.
But if you didn't mean "it", whatever 'it" was, then why are you making an apology? Surely an explanation is the only viable recourse?
I have been in situations, where I did not have the intention to hurt another, but that I knew I would hurt them just by being me.
My mother was a control freak to the point of being paranoid if you hurt her. She conjured up all sorts of thing in her mind because of her mental illness. Simply leaving a window open , could cause her to believe you did it intentionally, in order to have an assassin come in and kill her.
This is an extreme case, but there are others, not so extreme, that I believe if you did not say 'sorry', could lead people to think you deliberately didn't take their feelings into account in an uncaring way. If a misunderstanding can be cleared up with a simple apology, why not apologize?
It is my view that apologising to your Mum was probably a mistake, as that may well have fuelled the fear that you had it in for her. Maybe saying that you had nothing to apologise for and explaining why she was making a mistake thinking you were trying to hurt her, reassuring her that you would NEVER want to hurt her was much better than implying you had made a mistake and were apologising to her.
Misunderstanding are only cleared up with explanations.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:38 pm
by artisticsolution
It is my view that apologising to your Mum was probably a mistake, as that may well have fuelled the fear that you had it in for her. Maybe saying that you had nothing to apologise for and explaining why she was making a mistake thinking you were trying to hurt her, reassuring her that you would NEVER want to hurt her was much better than implying you had made a mistake and were apologising to her.
Misunderstanding are only cleared up with explanations.
You can't reason with a mentally ill person. Leaving the window open was not my mistake, it was my stepfathers...who she divorced because, "he was trying to have her killed. "
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:48 pm
by Vor
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise.
I am surprised that they would ever find themselves in this predicament, if they were so smart and mindful.

Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:32 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Vor wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise.
I am surprised that they would ever find themselves in this predicament, if they were so smart and mindful.

Think about it.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:33 am
by Hobbes' Choice
artisticsolution wrote:
It is my view that apologising to your Mum was probably a mistake, as that may well have fuelled the fear that you had it in for her. Maybe saying that you had nothing to apologise for and explaining why she was making a mistake thinking you were trying to hurt her, reassuring her that you would NEVER want to hurt her was much better than implying you had made a mistake and were apologising to her.
Misunderstanding are only cleared up with explanations.
You can't reason with a mentally ill person. Leaving the window open was not my mistake, it was my stepfathers...who she divorced because, "he was trying to have her killed. "
I know I've got a brother who has been schizophrenic since 1978.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:51 am
by The Inglorious One
I always apologize to my wife first thing in the morning -- just in case.
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:24 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
The Inglorious One wrote:I always apologize to my wife first thing in the morning -- just in case.
It's never enough though, is it?
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:28 pm
by artisticsolution
The Inglorious One wrote:I always apologize to my wife first thing in the morning -- just in case.
LMAO
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:35 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Hobbes' Choice wrote:artisticsolution wrote:
It is my view that apologising to your Mum was probably a mistake, as that may well have fuelled the fear that you had it in for her. Maybe saying that you had nothing to apologise for and explaining why she was making a mistake thinking you were trying to hurt her, reassuring her that you would NEVER want to hurt her was much better than implying you had made a mistake and were apologising to her.
Misunderstanding are only cleared up with explanations.
You can't reason with a mentally ill person. Leaving the window open was not my mistake, it was my stepfathers...who she divorced because, "he was trying to have her killed. "
I know I've got a brother who has been schizophrenic since 1978.
Looks like you're more like your brother than you believe. Except that I feel sorry for him!
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:39 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
artisticsolution wrote:The Inglorious One wrote:I always apologize to my wife first thing in the morning -- just in case.
LMAO
Forget it AS, some men just really prefer sucking themselves. It's raw competition gone awry (no sound reason applied). Their phallus is their BMW, etc, etc, etc!
Re: Never regret, Never apologise.
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:27 am
by Dalek Prime
Regret. Apologize. Regret apologizing. Apologize for regretting.
Rinse. Repeat.