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entangled particals are relative.and the nonlocality is the relativity between the entangled particals in locality.objects moving in locality which they have to do have the exact same indistinguishable relativity as the entangled particals do.because relativity is nonlocality.nonlocality is the mover that we join on measuring c.nonlocality is certainty.heisenbergs uncertainty is a principle in locality.it is not a principle in nonlocality because nonlocality is certain.nonlocality caused hiesenbergs uncertainy principle to exist in locality as an omniprinciple.hiesenbergs p came from consciousness.

Lots of interesting stuff in your last post, jackles; but we might as well start at the beginning. Exactly what do you mean by this?

jackles wrote:entangled particals are relative.

yes relative they have diffrent spins so they are relative.the diffrent parts of the entanglment move relativly.

Could you explain what you mean by relatively they have different spins Jackles, it seems to be mixing one theory with another?

jackles wrote:the anwser is no arising not until the imfomation reaches an unmoving consciousness.

And if the results are emailed a few weeks later you'd say that at the time the machine did not measure the speed of light?

jackles wrote:yes relative they have diffrent spins so they are relative.the diffrent parts of the entanglment move relativly.

Might be worth boning up on entanglement, jackles. Here's a good place to start: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ent ... F6DFBAA4E6

no need of such things uwot.if something moves or changes then that something is relative to something else.spin is moving and so its relative.

to answer arising.its the exact same as light duality in that the measuring imformation is happened and not happened.only when a consiousness has observed the imformation does it collapse the maybe wave function in to the actuallity of having happened.ha ha.phew got out a dat one.

jackles wrote:entangled particals are relative.and the nonlocality is the relativity between the entangled particals in locality.objects moving in locality which they have to do have the exact same indistinguishable relativity as the entangled particals do.because relativity is nonlocality.nonlocality is the mover that we join on measuring c.nonlocality is certainty.heisenbergs uncertainty is a principle in locality.it is not a principle in nonlocality because nonlocality is certain.nonlocality caused hiesenbergs uncertainy principle to exist in locality as an omniprinciple.hiesenbergs p came from consciousness.

Are you sure jackles? I would have said the uncertainty principle is very much bound up in non-locality, rather than local realism. In other words, the uncertainty principle is an explanation in terms of restricted measurement of a single system while non-locality is a restriction on measurement of two systems.

jackles wrote:to answer arising.its the exact same as light duality in that the measuring imformation is happened and not happened.only when a consiousness has observed the imformation does it collapse the maybe wave function in to the actuallity of having happened.ha ha.phew got out a dat one.

Okay, what if the results were used to do another function, say feeding a cat by releasing an amount of food from a mechanical feeder each time the speed of light was measured, so a consciousness never gets to see the results. Would you say the cat will die from starvation?

ginkgo certainty is a n absolute restriction on any measuring.in certainty nothing exists other than certainty .there is no relative system to have uncertainy .there is no future here.time space is certain.

arising your givin me a head ache.but ill get back.ps unless some else has the answer worked out.

jackles wrote:ginkgo certainty is a n absolute restriction on any measuring.in certainty nothing exists other than certainty .there is no relative system to have uncertainy .there is no future here.time space is certain.

I think you mean that uncertainty is an absolute restriction on the measurement of a system. In terms of the uncertainty principle it is the position and the momentum of a particle. The more certain we are about the position of a particle the less certain we know about its momentum and vice versa.

Special relativity and quantum mechanics don't allow for absolute space and time. I think string theory requires absolute space, but I would need to look into that claim.

i think that is absolute spacetime ginkgo.rather than space and time and gravity.so spacetime no gravity=certainty

Still waiting for an answer as to whether you think the cat would starve?