The Metaphysical Papers

[WanderingLands]

I found some more stuff for you guys to contemplate on regarding the Woman.

1. Woman
WOMB-MAN
Nuit & Hadit (the Thelemic concept of Duality)
WOMB = Nuit = Darkness
MAN = Hadit = Light
MAN (Humans; Creation as Whole) came from the WOMB (Darkness)

Sheela-na-gig



A drawing of a likely Celtic goddess showing her genitals.

Source:

Symbol Dictionary - Sheela-na-gig (Síla na Géige): http://symboldictionary.net/?p=131m

The Black Stone that is on the Kabba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia (the Islamic Holy Site of pilgrimage) is the womb of a woman. Notice the comparison between the Black Stone and the genitals of Sheela-na-gig.

[attofishpi]

How does this symbol (of mine) rate with you?

That picture you are showing is the Pentagram, which contains the Golden Ratio (1.618...). It's the center; the All; Man; etc.

Pent = Five = Phi = Pi (3.14)

Catch my drift?

I see pi?

What is your point with all this symbolism? Are you determining if there is a conspiracy of man? or God?

If so then answer my question.

[WanderingLands]

I see pi?

What is your point with all this symbolism? Are you determining if there is a conspiracy of man? or God?

If so then answer my question.

Whether or not it's a conspiracy or some proof of a God or something divine can be based upon further research into history, which includes looking into more overlooked parts of it.

[attofishpi]

How does this symbol (of mine) rate with you?

That picture you are showing is the Pentagram, which contains the Golden Ratio (1.618...). It's the center; the All; Man; etc.

Pent = Five = Phi = Pi (3.14)

Catch my drift?

You only see a pentagram?

[WanderingLands]

You only see a pentagram?

No. I see a lot more than just a Pentagram.

[attofishpi]

What is your point with all this symbolism? Are you determining if there is a conspiracy of man? or God?

Whether or not it's a conspiracy or some proof of a God or something divine can be based upon further research into history, which includes looking into more overlooked parts of it.

Though i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i think i understand your pursuit.

So are you joining dots as it were, attempting to make connections between distinct cultural groups? Are these connections then providing proof of some conspiracy or God?

...woops forgot the other chap...Satan?

[WanderingLands]

What is your point with all this symbolism? Are you determining if there is a conspiracy of man? or God?

Whether or not it's a conspiracy or some proof of a God or something divine can be based upon further research into history, which includes looking into more overlooked parts of it.

Though i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i think i understand your pursuit.

So are you joining dots as it were, attempting to make connections between distinct cultural groups? Are these connections then providing proof of some conspiracy or God?

...woops forgot the other chap...Satan?

I pretty am doing so to connect dots, since I am looking at many of the similarities between many different cultures from around the world. For me, it is so we can see what the true religion (the primordial religion) was like on earth if there was ever a civilization before Antiquity and Modernism.

In answering to the second question, I am very interested in this emerging conspiracy theory called the "Saturnalian Death Cult" that's been on the Internet for quite some time. It's a theory that all of the world's religions and their symbolism and customs, etc. came from the primordial worship of Saturn, going back to what's called the Golden Age of Saturn.

I also base by philosophy on Gnosticism. I believe that Man can gain divinity by knowledge, and through knowledge (and having the right diet, practicing magic, and other spiritual practices), that we can get out of the Matrix, ie. the Saturnalian Matrix.

All three is the answer.

[WanderingLands]

What are the keys that are present in the Christian, Zoroastrian, and Roman religion(s)?

Matthew 16:19 speaks of Jesus giving the keys of the kingdom of heaven to St. Peter.
Revelation 1:18 speaks of Jesus (or God) that he has the keys of hell and death.

Janus, the Roman god of time, duality, etc., was often depicted with a key in his hand.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--BhTJIqW4uA/U ... /janus.gif

I got the picture from: http://artjewelryelements.blogspot.com/ ... d-key.html

Zurvan, the Zurvan Zoroastrian supreme deity of Time, has the "Keys of Time".



Sources:
Symbol Dictionary - Keys of St. Peter: http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2954
Wikipedia - Janus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus
Encyclopedia Britannica - Zurvan (ancient god): http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/658515/Zurvan

The Bible talks of two keys (as already mentioned): the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and the keys of hell and death (the Hebrew word for hell, "sheoul", is equated with death). In Luke 17:21, Jesus says that the kingdom is "within you". By "within you", it can either mean within the Heart, which is commonly symbolized as Love, or it can be the Mind, which means Intellect and Knowing. Or it could be some "primordial essence", or primordial energy, which permeates both mind and heart.

So if we were to connect the keys of heaven or hell, we could say that heaven and hell represent the depths of consciousness/unconsciousness (speaking of mind), and/or the depths of the karma and emotions inside the heart. Revelation is about, in a metaphysical sense, the trials that the soul (or existence) goes through in order to reach heavenly perfection. Enlightenment requires people to go through their individual "Hall of Records" (the memories inside the consciousness of the brain), in order to have a perfect mind. Having pure love means to go through the past karmic misadventures to find pure love in the heart (which is often why people shed tears when reminded of the troubles).

The keys can also mean the keys of reality, such as in Janus and Zurvan. Zurvan, the chief god of ancient Persia, is represented as a serpent, and represents time. The symbolism of the serpent will be discussed in the future, but the serpent, in the Hindu Tantric sense, is the shakti (feminine energy) that brings enlightenment to people when awakened. So that would mean that awakening the Kundalini can be equivalent of possibly unlocking the secrets of Zurvan. This goes back to the path of Enlightenment that was talked of in the last paragraph.

So what is the key itself? My guess would be that the key could be the authority or privilege to see the hidden; could also be the force of the individual that is used to find this knowledge.

[EagerForTruth]

Ok, WOW Wandering - i couldn't really summon a wholehearted look at a lot of that stuff, and it's making my head swim just to think of how you consolidated it in this threat. I can say that all the different little goodies of truth I seemed to notice in it in skimming in it both really neat, and kinda to my mind...rather expected. Your reference to fractals, macrocosm, the universality of the way reality interacts with itself in it's infinite expression is quite insightful. I did just post a....45 minute long thought process i had in another threat in this sub-topic and i find all of these relationships very good ways to complement or mirror the final consolidation of my own thoughts. I don't think I could ever manage this kind of mathematical discovery which to me strongly implies there is only one reality and even ourselves (our little bit of consciousness is one more of the expression of reality after all) are all intertwined parts of what is really a rather simple idea, that there really is only one reality and infinite expressions of it, which is what our own consciousness is as well after all.

But seriously, wow on the number thing - i'm not scared of math, but i'd rather chop off my foot then hafta work that out personally....

[WanderingLands]

Ok, WOW Wandering - i couldn't really summon a wholehearted look at a lot of that stuff, and it's making my head swim just to think of how you consolidated it in this threat. I can say that all the different little goodies of truth I seemed to notice in it in skimming in it both really neat, and kinda to my mind...rather expected. Your reference to fractals, macrocosm, the universality of the way reality interacts with itself in it's infinite expression is quite insightful. I did just post a....45 minute long thought process i had in another threat in this sub-topic and i find all of these relationships very good ways to complement or mirror the final consolidation of my own thoughts. I don't think I could ever manage this kind of mathematical discovery which to me strongly implies there is only one reality and even ourselves (our little bit of consciousness is one more of the expression of reality after all) are all intertwined parts of what is really a rather simple idea, that there really is only one reality and infinite expressions of it, which is what our own consciousness is as well after all.

But seriously, wow on the number thing - i'm not scared of math, but i'd rather chop off my foot then hafta work that out personally....

Thank you for taking the time to look at my research, EagerForTruth. It's been somewhat of a long search for truth, and at times I had to go through some hardship in my life in order to become more interested in connecting the dots. Through researching various religions and spiritualit(ies), as well as techniques such as meditation, in learning how to become more patient, I believe that I have gained a lot of information as well as even getting to the root of all existence. I am still growing and learning many different things, and it's through persistance that I learn self-mastery of life.

Seeing that you are very enthusiastic about my work, I believe that you are able to find things and try to connect the dots as well. It is very hard, and takes research, dedication, and the patience and willing to go through hardship. Thank you.

[EagerForTruth]

For the moment, I would say my own belief is that the root of all existence is consciousness, which expressed in my own being takes the understanding I have through self-awareness and my perception of the realities around me, and through consciousness adds new ideas to arrive at new understanding and then continually repeat. I'm actually right now musing for the past hours on how to define it more completely involving the concepts of existence and being, as well as free will, the general idea of substance theory, and essense.....

Actually been on this thought all morning, now that a day or two here has me actually defining my consciousness rather than just knowing about it and what it perceives.

So far - Consciousness is the fundamental energy of reality. It expressed itself in two existence two ways, which are substance and being. Substance is the quality that governs a physical expression of consciousness takes in reality. Being is the the carrier of self-awareness. Essence of a particular reality is the expression of how consciousness brings it's two expression together in a particular combination of substance and being. Substance may be the many physical and energy things we perceive through our senses and in particular physics (where i don't know nearly enough about yet to define more is the real deep concepts in physics) In this way when consciousness is broken down to its substance I'll vaguely say substance is the inherent tendencies any expression of consciousness has to interact with others (i.e gravity, chemistry, etc.) In basic substance, though being exists, self-awareness is simply a inherent quality of existing. Through the complexities of substance when more complex variations of the expression are formed through interaction, say billions of years of the universes past and onto biological organisms...the being contained in it's components is able to manipulate the substance and exercise it's self-awareness actively and have free will. Perhaps even the slight strangeness to the randomness in quantum physics is this to, but that ones really reaching.

After this, substance theory, ontology, and the rest of the equasion of how it all works together is well - an ongoing process. Maybe that is time and space...For my own purposes, the real crux is why when consciousness expresses as substance it does so even on the basic level, in so many ways. From what I can tell - no amount of physics will explain it all at any point i can see....there will always be some question more how it got that way. I'm not sure if i need to even worry about it, because as the ultimate reality, is by definition i think expressed in infinite ways. On the other side Being as i put it -is simply the existence of consciousness in everything that is. Being, combined with the right configuration of substance gives the individual form of something. What say you?

So far this is just how I'm incorporating all the threads i read, analyzed and responded to in the past day or two - which i doubt anyone will read they are well - a pretty much blow for blow expression of how my own consciousness incorporated all as I analyzed which ended up rather long and involved a thought on most of the important ideas for each thread as well as filtering out lots of the more semantical or technical components, which still for me is a very strange way for everyone to try and understand each others expressions. So much inclusion of technical aspects which didn't seem to really do anything but take the original line of question on a tangent that only debated the semantics of those things.

[EagerForTruth]

I just had another interesting idea that all these number patterns you're compiling might even have a way of starting to explain my troubles with how consciousness expresses itself in substance with such variance, as well as how it's essence then determines the resulting changes and reactions between it that lead to the changing forms. Heh, wouldn't u know it - last night i read it and though it was fascinating - thank you even again...you responded to my first comment on this thread, and trying to respond formally gave me that first expression, and now as I glanced at it more closely having started to define it more, that just occured to me.

[WanderingLands]

I just had another interesting idea that all these number patterns you're compiling might even have a way of starting to explain my troubles with how consciousness expresses itself in substance with such variance, as well as how it's essence then determines the resulting changes and reactions between it that lead to the changing forms. Heh, wouldn't u know it - last night i read it and though it was fascinating - thank you even again...you responded to my first comment on this thread, and trying to respond formally gave me that first expression, and now as I glanced at it more closely having started to define it more, that just occured to me.

Know that you've mentioned this, along with that other post here regarding Consciousness, I maybe should share some of my insights on what Consciousness is. I must say that I have been watching this "Rosicrucian Science of Initiation" video series on YouTube, and while I was watching it I was taking down notes. Before, I was meditating upon the Rosicrucian Vowel Intonations that I got from another video, and so at the beginning of watching "Science of Initiation", I was in a deeper state of consciousness. This had got me thinking about the stages of Consciousness in the human brain in connecting to the "Three Types of Initiates" concept first being introduced in the "Science of Initiation" at the beginning.

So going into the Consciousness subject that I was penning down in my notes as "commentary", I am thinking now that our thought patterns are really patterns of our ego, which is built from the Individual Subconscious. The Collective Unconscious, I believe, is free from the egos and obstacles that we are forced to face in order to reach spiritual perfection (maybe ascension). The patterns that do come out of the Collective Unconscious are geometric patterns, which manifest as symbols into the Subconscious and Ego because of trying to fit these "revelations" into the cultural background that many in the past have done.

Consciousness is undoubtedly energy, as you said. The Higher forms of Consciousness may have, however, some different energy which is probably how people tend to go into other realities through religious rituals and psychedelics and what not.

[EagerForTruth]

Quite....it seems to me your approach to consciousness and philosophy are highly spiritual/intuitive in your approach. From what I can tell you look for a high amount of communication and information about philosophy in general, and then try to convert that into a person spiritual way to commune with a higher level of consciousness. For my own part, and each person uses their own methods, I'm not sure I like to totally categorize things very much all the time - even many of my exchanges of ideas on here are somewhat taking my own highly cerebral/intuitive approach and trying to communicate them in the language style of the medium. I do think that we can have a lower or higher awareness of our own consciousness, although i tend to view most of existence not in levels per se, but to express in a visual representation an extended scale, like a percentile bar. I've never been too connected to the ritualized attempts to connect with the spiritual nature of consciousness, although I do maintain a simple but decent mediation ability I use often enough. All the patterns and numbers that emerge from existence, all the rituals, cultures, philosophies, everything we use to try and define the energies around us are all ways of seeking greater connection to them I think.

[WanderingLands]

This is part of The Metaphysical Papers, concerning the actual beginning of mankind and existence. This section shall bring new perspectives on science, religion, history, and spirituality, as many of you have yet to have seen it.

Kickstarting this section, I shall introduce to you some videos by the Thunderbolts Project on YouTube.

YouTube - Symbols of an Alien Sky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY
YouTube - Thunderbolts of the Gods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA

Some websites that propose that there was a Golden Age (known as the Golden Age of Saturn).

Saturn Death Cult: http://saturndeathcult.com/
In the Beginning by Immanuel Velivovsky: http://www.varchive.org/itb/index.htm

Access all of Immanuel Velikovsky's works here: http://www.varchive.org/