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why is gravity not a dimension..?

Try to describe gravity without using space or time.

Because it's a force, it's not the dimension of gravity, there's no dimension of electromagnetism either, however as said a force must have a time in a spacelike constraint to act in. So yes it is not a dimension, but it is only made coherent by placing it's vectors in a framework which are dimensional.

I'm going to take a leap of faith and assume everyone knows that.

petm1 wrote:

why is gravity not a dimension..?

Try to describe gravity without using space or time.

Try to describe time without space or mass.

space mass and time are. What is in the 3d canvas of space mass and the processing of such [time]

Reality / is dimension.

in popular fiction another dimension is another 'verse. another time is conceptual memory or speculation centered on now.
It exists only as concept.
In time dilation einstien showed time as varible of mass x Δv. What mass did time followed.
And mass could do because time was.

To most on earth this thinking about time is a big seller for asprin and nothink tv

Try to describe time without space or mass.

I do not know the length of the duration before big bang, a point in time, which I think of as the beginning of the energy we measure as mass occupying space/time.

Now i think of it . bang occurred. time . but as i have always purposed. reality is far larger than this 'verse.
time exists in REALITY. as does space and mass

thus in our reality it does as well.. our universe is an ant farm
we are less than ants. [but we aspire]

we know so little. kiddies playing with blocks

If I were a photon I would not "look like" a point-particle and
at constant speed (c=1) I would not have "time" (like a dead man)
and the universe without "time" would look very boring and therefore
I will try to change situation and create "time" by some action.
Maybe by the act of "vacuum transformation / fluctuation / polarization"
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socratus wrote:If I were a photon I would not "look like" a point-particle and
at constant speed (c=1) I would not have "time" (like a dead man)
and the universe without "time" would look very boring and therefore
I will try to change situation and create "time" by some action.
Maybe by the act of "vacuum transformation / fluctuation / polarization"
==..

As i understand it. if proton has mass and it apparently does, [Proton = 1.6726231*10-27 kg] then it cannot move at C.
As dilation shifts time process dependent on greater mass it is part of [a spaceship ?]
then time to a proton, is overwrit by proximitty to C of the mass a proton is part of.
"point particle?"
All mass has extension. point particles are math constructs. a particle without extension in x,y,z is, nothing.

As Arising says my degree is lots of books and a true desire to understand. teach yourself. don't parrot.
Being wrong is just as valuable as being right. That's how science 'works' .

'vacuum' is the next great leap

Prill [aka ming the merciless aka piglet]
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"Where the Time come from" is a daunting thing to those who never gave it much thought.
From age 11 time i have read and studied. past and future i have come to believe do not exist.
They are constructs of mind.
NOW is all that exists.
Dilation was a huge effect on me.
That time ,or now, can be processing at independent rates dependent on proximity to C.
turned my thinking sideways.

time is motion

It has been already written, the time is a measure of the changes. The time may not (temporarily) run by the same speed at the all places of the space. But the "energy" (a surface-tension of Universe) watches it to do it (during wider range). Our "changes" begun as the meta-universe condensation started. Before, there had been only the "future" - the odd caused, odd organized phase of reality, full of the stem "elementary particles", full of the ideas. Since this moment the elements and the ideas of the future are permanently glued/crystallized/fixed at the history body/substrate/pattern during the universe growth (meta-universe cooling?). We are living on the (3-D) surface of (4-D) growing history, being waiting how it all will happen... It is necessary to note that some configurations of the reality are (by God?) supported...

Sorry Kuznetzova and boys, when I open the bottle I must answer your problems :)

Cerveny wrote:It has been already written, the time is a measure of the changes. The time may not (temporarily) run by the same speed at the all places of the space. But the "energy" (a surface-tension of Universe) watches it to do it (during wider range). Our "changes" begun as the meta-universe condensation started. Before, there had been only the "future" - the odd caused, odd organized phase of reality, full of the stem "elementary particles", full of the ideas. Since this moment the elements and the ideas of the future are permanently glued/crystallized/fixed at the history body/substrate/pattern during the universe growth (meta-universe cooling?). We are living on the (3-D) surface of (4-D) growing history, being waiting how it all will happen... It is necessary to note that some configurations of the reality are (by God?) supported...

Sorry Kuznetzova and boys, when I open the bottle I must answer your problems

Something for refreshment:
There is one thing that troubles me. It is a huge speed of mentioned condensation (in the order of c). It makes me think about additional universal movement of "our" universe in a meta environment (in the "future"). Such movement can be an universal source of all periodic phenomena (electromagnetic waves, waves of electrons in an atom, inertial motion ...) and finally of an universal (kinetic) energy (m * c ^ 2). Appropriate wind of sub​​-electron (stem) particles vibrates / resonates in steady states, which quantum mechanics is trying to describe ...
Technical note:
I assume that no one doubts that electrons in atoms are non-local, distributed, so I tend to believe that atoms are some kinds of elementary particles (which can decay into electrons and nucleons)

Time is what Kant called the act of spontaneity which generates the representation 'I think'. This act performs synthesis. I.e. time is mind processing information. Space is the medium where information is processed.

https://www.academia.edu/7347240/Our_Co ... _Dialectic